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Oui j'ai bien compris ... mais çà c'est quand on utilise une corde. Elle ne peut vibrer qu'à une fréquence fonction de sa longueur. Un GK (ou autre) analyse cette vibration avec un "micro".
Ici ce ne semble pas être le cas. L'annonce n'est pas très explicite sur la techno employée mais je ne suis pas sûr que la corde soit nécessaire (peut être pour faire contact avec la frette mais sa vibration on s'en fout), on est plus dans des matrices de boutons comme sur la kitara ou d'autre controleur midi.
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Les guitares et basses de industrial radio ont aussi une technologie qui reçoit le pitch directement de la frette sans passer par la case d'analyse. Bon les "boutons" sont cachés dans la touche mais çà ne change rien au raisonnement, rien n'empêcherait d'avoir plusieurs notes sur une même ligne (corde). Je ne dis pas que c'est le cas ici, je n'en sais rien.
Je ne parlais pas du sustain de la corde mais de celui du synthé derrière. Si le release des enveloppe est long (ou avec un pédale de sustain) et que le synthé est polyphonique, on peut avoir un effet d'accord même si on ne joue qu'une note à la fois ou que le contrôleur est mono.
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Citation de Hakim+K :
@noiZe : Quoique tu fasses, même en tapping très rapide, sur une même corde tu fais une note à la fois, l'intervalle de temps séparant les notes est juste plus petit.
Oui j'ai bien compris ... mais çà c'est quand on utilise une corde. Elle ne peut vibrer qu'à une fréquence fonction de sa longueur. Un GK (ou autre) analyse cette vibration avec un "micro".
Ici ce ne semble pas être le cas. L'annonce n'est pas très explicite sur la techno employée mais je ne suis pas sûr que la corde soit nécessaire (peut être pour faire contact avec la frette mais sa vibration on s'en fout), on est plus dans des matrices de boutons comme sur la kitara ou d'autre controleur midi.
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Les guitares et basses de industrial radio ont aussi une technologie qui reçoit le pitch directement de la frette sans passer par la case d'analyse. Bon les "boutons" sont cachés dans la touche mais çà ne change rien au raisonnement, rien n'empêcherait d'avoir plusieurs notes sur une même ligne (corde). Je ne dis pas que c'est le cas ici, je n'en sais rien.
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Le sustain des notes c'est une autre affaire. Après avec le GK ou le TriplePlay je peux faire du tapping très rapide, ça passe.
Je ne parlais pas du sustain de la corde mais de celui du synthé derrière. Si le release des enveloppe est long (ou avec un pédale de sustain) et que le synthé est polyphonique, on peut avoir un effet d'accord même si on ne joue qu'une note à la fois ou que le contrôleur est mono.
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