Contrôle virus c par sysex
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sheep
je suis en train de faire une device pour controller le virus c
Pour les cc ça va c'est assez simple. Par contre j'aimerais pouvoir controller certains paramètre comme le lfo clock
Et pour cela je vais devoir passer par du sysex.
Je n'y comprend pas grand chose hormis que je doit envoyer du sysex parameters change avec un message de type: f0,00,20,33,01,dd,71,40,18,vv,f7 avec vv la variable de 0 à 127 ( c'est un exemple pour le lfo clock1 en sync en mode single) voir page 163 du manuel en lien.
Je comprend ce que je doit envoyer mais pas comment le faire.
Un autre détail qui pourrait être intéressant c'est de pouvoir recevoir un dump à chaque changement de preset histoire d'avoir un visuel à jour.
Est-ce quelqu'un a une piste pour m'aiguiller?
Une lecture ou un tuto pourrait m'etre fort utile.
D'avance merci.
https://virus.info/api/download/dlid/218/alternate/0/User%20manual%20for%20Virus%20C%20Series%20in%20English
veedjee
Hello Sheep,
Pour envoyer du Sysex depuis Max4Live il faut contourner une des limitations de Live qui empêche de traiter ce genre de message directement depuis le séquenceur (limitation bien relou soit dit en passant...).
Autrement dit, tu peux utiliser le protocole UDP pour envoyer le sysex vers un patch Max autonome en dehors de Live qui va ensuite charger les messages dans ton synthé :
<pre><code>
----------begin_max5_patcher----------
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-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
</code></pre>
Pour l'edition des messages sysex en eux même, il faut utiliser l'objet [sxformat] :
Le patch ci-dessus envoi le sysex 240 65 54 0 35 32 1 XX YY 247 où XX est la valeur du contrôleur (16) et XX la valeur du cutoff.
Tu peux t'inspirer du code ci dessous que j'ai réalisé pour contrôler mon Juno, bon courage
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</code></pre>
sheep
Merci beaucoup Je teste ça des que je rentre et je.vous fait un retour d'expérience.
sheep
Bon je comprend comment ça marche par contre j'ai un problème d'adresse de sysex...
quand j'envoie mes donnée j'ai droit à un programme change plutôt qu'un parameter change.
je dois rentrer : f0 00 20 33 01 dd(device id) 71 40 nn(parameter number) vv(parameter value)
je rentre 0xf0 0x00 0x20 0x33 0x01 0x10 0x71 0x40 0x18 / is $i1 / 0xf7
et j’obtiens
sxformat 240 0 32 51 1 0 113 64 24 / is $i1 / 247
je ne sais pas vraiment si j'ai un problème config hardware ou de codage de sysex (ça ne me parait pas sorcier mais je tombe à coté) donc si vous avez une idée ça peux m'aider.
on ne pourrait pas avoir une lecture avec un "sysexin" pour voir les données sysex du virus?
merci et bonne journée.
[ Dernière édition du message le 17/04/2013 à 13:40:06 ]
veedjee
Voilà, pour le Synth, monitorer en dehors de M4L pour déjouer le filtrage des sysex de Live :
<pre><code>
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</code></pre>
[ Dernière édition du message le 17/04/2013 à 15:48:57 ]
sheep
Ça a pas mal marché dans l'aprem j'ai réussi à faire mes lfo
Mais après black out. Plus de transmission. On verra ça demain.
En tous cas grand merci pour le partage.
veedjee
Cool Très bonne continuation ++
sheep
Bon un petit partage de l'avancement :
mon patch commande lfo :
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-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
</code></pre>
mon patch max de routage (simple modification de celui de veedjee :
<pre><code>
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-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
</code></pre>
Ca avance pas mal mais je suis toujours en recherche pour router le sysexin vers les commandes.
veedjee
Voilà un exemple, attention il faudra sans doute que tu adaptes selon les specs de ton synth, celui ci étant conçu pour récupérer les infos du Juno et avoir un feedback sur le patch de contrôle lorsque je change de preset depuis le synth (je pense notamment à la découpe des sysex, et le routing des valeurs vers les dials) :
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1725/patchh.png
<pre><code>
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-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
</code></pre>
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