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[RME Fireface 800] La carte firewire de RME !

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Sujet de la discussion [RME Fireface 800] La carte firewire de RME !


Citation : Fireface 800 - RME goes FireWire!

After more than 2 years of development, time has come: RME presents the Fireface 800, a 56 channel 24 bit / 192 kHz high-end, high performance and high speed FireWire audio interface.

The Fireface 800 combines the latest and also proven technologies of previous RME products with the fastest FireWire technology. Analog technology of the ADI-8 converters, microphone technology of QuadMic and OctaMic, TotalMix technology of the Hammerfall DSP series, years of experience in programming of efficient and reliable drivers up to complete support from DIGICheck - only the best of the best, and even a bit more. The Fireface 800 offers the best worked out instrument input that could ever be found in an audio interface, a high power headphone output and signal-to-noise ratios of 119 dBA - typically RME!

RME's world-wide successful Multiface was the basis for the development of the Fireface 800. 8 balanced line I/Os with software controlled switching of the reference levels (-10 dBV, +4 dBu, HiGain), of course realized discretely in the analog domain, guarantee highest dynamic range and highest fidelity. Apart from the levels of the microphone pre-amps and the headphone outputs, all device settings are software controlled. Equipped with the latest A/D and D/A converter chips, all I/Os operate up to 192 kHz and reach even 119 dBA dynamic range on playback.

The front-sided headphone output in high power technology does not only deliver high volume with low-impedance headphones, but represents the playback channels 9/10. In contrast to the Multiface, the headphone output is directly ASIO Direct Monitoring capable.

On the front side, the Fireface 800 has 4 discrete balanced microphone inputs with class-A stage, 48 V phantom powering and separate jack and XLR inputs, which can also be used as additional line inputs. Two of the four mic inputs are permanently available as channels 9 and 10, the other two can be used together with or alternatively to the inputs 7 / 8 on the back.

The FireFace 800's Hi-Z instrument input offers an unprecedented fidelity and flexibility for the use of guitar and bass. A soft-limiter, which has been tuned especially for musical instruments, takes care of an efficient overload protection of the A/D-converter. The limiter does not work without distortion, it deliberately creates harmonic distortion. Due to a soft transition and deliberate creation of harmonics, the input signal is compressed steplessly according to taste, or the limiter can be used as a distortion with tube sound. A 'fuzz' circuit, which can be activated in addition, delivers broad guitar distortion. A filter with several stages, which can also be switched on separately, takes low- and high-frequency disturbances away and guarantees a optimal basic sound even when recording directly into the computer, or when monitoring through a mixing console. Signals from guitar or bass are not being alienated in this case, but pre-conditioned for later processing in the DAW, so that the known amplifier plug-ins can make the most out of the sound.

Two ADAT I/Os allow connecting and inserting effect devices, mixing consoles or external converters. With two additional ADI-8 DS, there are 26 analog inputs and outputs, which remain still 18 at 96 kHz. The SPDIF-I/O works up to 192 kHz, so that there are still 10 analog in- and outputs at the highest sample rate, plus two digital ones.

All inputs and outputs can be used at the same time. E. g., the instrument input can be used either instead of the line input on the back, or together with it. Even the jack and the XLR sockets of the microphone inputs can be used simultaneously. In this way, up to 35 signal sources can be connected to the Fireface 800 and recorded onto 28 separate tracks!

Thanks to the DSP-based TotalMix mixer known from the Hammerfall DSP series, all inputs and outputs can be freely mixed, distributed and routed. Up to 14 completely independent stereo submixes are possible. Thanks to an internal flash memory, all settings including TotalMix are recalled during boot. After making all desired settings, the device works stand-alone even without computer as a submixer, A/D and D/A converter, headphone mixer, format converter, instrument or microphone pre-amplifier, monitoring mixer and much more.

The Fireface 800 is equipped with SteadyClock, RME's latest sync and clock technology. With this, the device becomes a sync reference for the whole studio. SteadyClock refreshes clock signals, removes jitter, and takes permanent care of optimal conversion quality, thus guarantees a sensational sound quality.

Via an insert slot on the back, a time code option (TCO) for synchronizing to LTC, video and VITC can be added. Thanks to SteadyClock, the Fireface 800 does not only extract absolute positions, but also a very clean low-jitter word clock.

The latest FPGAs in 90 nanometer technology with unprecedented power are used in order to offer the FireWire 800 ports besides SteadyClock, ADAT and SPDIF digital PLL, TotalMix and stand-alone mode. On the basis of an integrated 32 bit RISC processor, an interface optimized especially for audio was developed, which is flexible, reconfigurable and one the first Giga-FW interfaces available. And of course it allows operation at latencies down to 48 samples. The Fireface 800 has a second port for hub functionality, bi-lingual mode for full FireWire 400 compatibility, and an additional FW 400 port. Thanks to the multi-ports, several Fireface 800 can be used in parallel and at the same time on one FireWire port without any problem.

Manufacturers suggested retail price: t.b.a. Shipment expected late summer 2004.



source : http://www.rme-audio.com/english/press/index.htm

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951
Ça ne me surprends pas plus que ça.
le firewire bouffe, rien que par sa gestion.

rien de plus efficace que le bus PCI.
952
Hello,

non, c'est normal!
J'avais une 2408 mk3 avec une carte Pci 424.
j'ai actuellement une Fireface 800 (car je bosse sur portable aujourd'hui) et je constate aussi que le firewire consomme plus de CPU (20à 30%). mais bon, on y arrive! le son est super et la carte est évolutive.
y faut juste une configuration puissante!

si tu as la possibilité de mettre une carte pcmcia ou pci (si tu bosses pas sur un iMac par exemple), la multiface II permet de soulager l'ordi, c'est pas mal
953
Moi ça ne m'étonne pas plus que ça et au contraire ça confirme ce que j'ai ressenti en passant de la Multiface à la Fireface ;) !

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954

Citation : Lors du mixage d'un projet je suis à 60% d'utilisation du CPU de mon Athlon 2600+ en utilisant le FF800.
Si à la place de la FF800, j'utilise ma carte RME Digi 96/8 pour le meme projet, l'utilisation du CPU passe à 42 %


En fw 400 ou fw 800 ?
955
En 400...puisque de toute facon le 800 fonctionne seulement quand on chaine 2 FireFace ...enfin, je crois...
956
Nuance, le 800 est utile pour pouvoir brancher jusqu'à 3 cartes en même temps (ce qui ne passerait pas en 400) et aussi pour brancher un HDD firewire en plus de la carte et être à l'aise.

mais une seule carte peut être branchée via l'interface 800. Plus on a de bande passante, mieux c'est.

moi je la branche en 400 car le port de mon PC est en 400, c'est une contrainte, pas un choix.
957

Citation : in preparation to the upcoming Fireface driver (hopefully tomorrow) we
also updated the Windows HDSP series and [...]



Bref il faut s'attendre à un nouveau firmware pour notre Fireface adorée dans la journée de demain :) !

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958

Citation : Hello,

W2k/XP driver 2.40 and firmware 2.42 are available from our website. News:

TotalMix

- Fixed small memory leak
- Automatic submix selection when activating Monitor Main/Phones
- Support for new mixer hardware and stand alone MIDI remote
- MIDI remote: Mute and solo buttons were not always displayed correctly
- MIDI Remote: Starting TotalMix via a click on the systray symbol
refreshes the LC-Display
- MIDI Remote: Cursor up/down did not work correctly in Double/Quad
Speed mode

General

- Current sample rate wasn't always stored automatically
- Sample rate stored in registry hasn't been activated on boot
- Incomplete reset in Double/Quad Speed operation on driver boot
(display error in TotalMix)
- Multiplier button partially active even with DDS deactivated
- New firmware supports stand-alone MIDI remote
- Improved code to prevent BSODs

Notes

The sample rate changes should make Bill Park happy. The MIDI
stand-alone additions are explained in the latest manual 2.5, already
uploaded to the website. The 'improved code to prevent Blue Screens'
might finally make all people happy that had problems since version 2.2.
We know that the driver is now much better, but we can't know if it
really fixes it for you - please try.

The Mac version will be released in a few days.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME



http://www.rme-audio.com/english/download/drivers.htm

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959
:bravo:
Tu es un père pour nous reXet.
:bravo2:

Fluch

960
Je t'avais pas noyé à ta naissance toi :8O: ?

:bravo:

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961
Toute petite mise à jour en 2.4.0.1 qui date du 12/15/2005

Citation : V 2.401 (12/15/2005, current firmware: 2.42)

TotalMix:

- Bugfix third row faders: storing gains > +4 dB did not work correctly
- Improved compatibilty to TotalMix files v 2.3



> download <

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962
Bonjour _
A Rexet _ Cette mise à jour ne concerne que la plateforme PC,bien sûr. Encore merci pour cette info et toutes les autres émanant de ces débats.
Récent acquéreur de cette carte-son, cela vaut le coup de soigner l'installation. Le mixer m'impressionne beaucoup bien que j'ai du mal à rentrer en numérique mais ça va aller _
963
L'installation est vraiment très simple. Je regrette juste la profusion de version de drivers lors de leur mise à jour mais bon ce n'est pas très gênant. Sinon c'est clair que les possibilités de la carte sont incroyables. Je l'ai récemment utilisé en standalone et ça peut vraiment servir comme préamplis d'appoint :) !

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964
NOUVEAU DRIVERS v2.4.1.1

Citation : It fixes:

- strange DDS slider behaviour as reported in this forum

- bug in GS MIDI (un-reported)

- bug in WDM MIDI multiclient behaviour (un-reported)

As these bugs are not present in the Mac OS X driver there is no update
for the Apples.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME



Le download se passe ici :

http://www.rme-audio.com/download/w2fire_241.zip

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965
NOUVEAUX DRIVERS 2.4.2.0
NOUVEAU FIRMWARE 2.45


Citation : Dear Fireface addicted forumsters,

version 2.42 of the W2k/XP driver and firmware 2.45 are now available
from our website. These are the news:

- Settings dialog: DDS off reverts to previous sample rate

- TotalMix: Third row faders had not been set correctly when in lowest
position

Both errors were reported by direct emails and in this forum. But there
was more feedback that made us re-think the current stand-alone
functionality: since implementing this new feature, the Fireface began
to react on simple MIDI notes at its input from the moment it was
switched on. The most harmless reaction was a change of the hardware
settings. Not so harmless were the MIDI notes at its output as reaction
to the input notes. Additionally, each time the unit was switched on, it
did send three MIDI note on commands, but no off (equalling the Mackie
Control indication for the current settings state). This could cause
hanging notes and other weired effects until the next global note off
command.

The obvious solution is to make stand-alone operation a choice, switched
off by default. So users who need this feature now have to start
TotalMix, enable MIDI control, then flash the current mixer state while
the MIDI control is still activated. Doing the same with MIDI control
deactivated will switch stand-alone MIDI operation off.

But there's even more in firmware 2.45:

- The mentioned three MIDI notes are no longer sent after power on, but
as first reaction to any incoming Mackie Control request

- Support for new flash chips

The latter forced us to implement a serious limitation: firmware 2.45
can not be downgraded - no rollback to a previous version!


The updated Mac version should be available tomorrow.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME



Ca se passe ici : http://www.rme-audio.com/english/download/drivers.htm

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966
Hé bin, j'suis pressé de recup la mienne du sav
967

Hors sujet : T'as pas de préamp Fakou ? Tu utilises ton 414 avec ceux de la Fireface ?

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968
J'ai sauté la dernière mise à jour. J'avais téléchargé le FUT et les pilotes mais pas installés. Est-ce que je peux installer les derniers directement ?
969
Oui pas de pb tu installes directement... (oublie pas d'installer d'abord les drivers et ensuite le firmware). N'oubliez pas également qu'avec ce firmware c'est irréversible, on ne peut pas revenir à une version précédente :) !

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970
Une petite update suite à un rapport d'erreur d'un utilisateur :

Citation : V 2.421 (01/08/2006, current firmware: 2.45)

- GSIF audio corrupted since v2.41
- Settings dialog: DDS off reverts to previous sample rate
- TotalMix: Third row faders had not been set correctly when in lowest position


Attention davvv semble avoir un pb avec le midi avec ce nouveau driver. Je vous conseille fortement d'attendre que tout soit clair et de ne pas flasher maintenant si tout fonctionne pour vous car c'est irréversible sinon et vous devrez attendre une prochaine mise à jour de RME.

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971
Sans vouloir rabacher toujours la même chose : il est en règle générale conseillé de conserver le pilote en cours si on ne constate aucun problème, et de n'effectuer de mise à jour que si celle-ci corrige un problème qui pose réellement problème dans l'utilisation courante.

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972
Et voilà, c'est ça que j'aime chez RME, il a suffit que davvv poste son pb sur le forum de RME pour que le lendemain ils releasent une nouvelle version du driver avec le bug corrigé :

Citation : V 2.422 (01/09/2006, current firmware: 2.45)

- MIDI Timestamps wrong since v 2.41
- GSIF audio corrupted since v2.41
- Settings dialog: DDS off reverts to previous sample rate
- TotalMix: Third row faders had not been set correctly when in lowest position



bref mise à jour :) !

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973

Hors sujet : T'as pas de préamp Fakou ? Tu utilises ton 414 avec ceux de la Fireface ?

non effectivement je nai plus de preamp, je nutilise pas ceux de la fireface car elle est en sav, jutilise actuellement uen vieille console à la place avec ma terratec...

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NOUVEAUX DRIVERS 2.4.2.2
NOUVEAU FIRMWARE 2.47


Citation : Hello,

after all the fixes in the latest Windows Fireface driver (current
version 2.4.2.2) there is another firmware update available. FUT 2.47
adds these goodies:

- Stand-Alone MIDI: Fixed ganging of the faders via select. Not selected
faders no longer move the selected group

- No Sync display with SPDIF at Double Speed operation fixed

In about two weeks there will be another FUT which fixes the Select
buttons position. Meaning it will be possible to select in the same way
as in TotalMix, and when moving through the lines and rows the select
LEDs will move too (keep their channel assignment).

The current version of the Windows driver including FUT 2.47 is now
available for Mac OS X as well. For users with multi-monitor setup (not
the speakers, the displays!) we removed the internal limitation of the
TotalMix window position. While this is no full multi-monitor support,
it nevertheless causes TM to no longer jump to the main screen as soon
as you touch it. Also monitor position is now stored as expected.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME



Bon on dirait que ça n'intéresse personne à chaque fois alors je vais laisser ce topic mourrir :) !

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975
Meuh non...

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