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Music Man StingRay 4

Basse électrique 4 cordes de la marque Music Man appartenant à la série StingRay

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Datation d'instrument

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Sujet de la discussion Datation d'instrument
Bonjour à toutes et à tous,

Je viens de faire l'acquisition d'une Musicman Stingray 4 d'occasion. :aime: :mdr: :bravo:

Je cherche à dater cet instrument (année de fab...) :(((

Est ce que quelqu'un connait un site que permettrait de faire ce genre de chose (ce n'est pas possible sur le site Ernie ball) ?

Merci d'avance. :clin:
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Je ne connais pas de site pour, mais c'est dans la plupart des cas les deux (ou quatre)premier chiffres du n° de série

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Baraque-8/197985390239991

 

http://fr.myspace.com/575348029

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Merci pour la réponse (rapide en plus !!!) :bravo:

Si je me fis à mon numéro de série, la basse daterait de 1999. le seul truc qui me tracasse, c'est que le chevalet possède encore le système avec étouffoires en mousses. Ce système aurait disparu depuis 1997 (d'après plusieurs possesseurs). L'instrument est en superbe état (proche du neuf !), seul le manche (touche érable) est un peu "patiné".

Je continu, donc, mes recherches. Encore merci de votre aide. :clin:
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La mienne a un numéro de série à 5 chiffres: 34XXX
Je pensait que le premier chiffre concernait l'année (1993 en l'occurence).
Elle comporte les étoufoirs en caoutchouc.

J'ai remarqué depuis quelques années que le bois du manche maple des musicman est moins luxueux : le mien est du 'bird eye maple' . C'est à dire que c'est de l'érable moucheté (oeil d'oiseau in french !). C'est top , super beau , plus beau que l'érable uniforme en tous cas. Je ne pense pas que cela joue sur la qualité sonore.
Pour info je l'ai payée d'occaze 5900 F en 1994 :mdr:
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En cherchant mieux j'ai trouvé TOUS les numéros de série sur le forum du site officiel:
Pre EB signifie que la période concernée date d'avant le rachat de Musicman par Ernie Ball (en 1984 je crois):

https://www.ernieball.com/forums/showthread.php?s=54a8e85e98ff4009014d5c85e55d435f&threadid=405

https://www.ernieball.com/forums/
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Neither Pre EB nor EB serials run in chronological although EB serials are truer to form.

PRE EB BASSES

STINGRAY (1976-84)

Neck Date/Body Date

B001000..First production model MM serial number.
Reference "Fender The Inside Story" by
Forrest White.
B001013..1976. Natural with Maple. White PUP. Black "radio knobs". Owner purchased in 1986 and claims Australian supplier used it as a "demonstrator".
B001057..Aug/Sep 1976. Red with Maple neck. White
pg. Plastic "radio" knobs.
B001133..Dec/Oct 1976. Natural with Maple neck.
Plastic Knobs.
B001429..Sep/Sep 1976. Sunburst with Maple neck.
White pg. Plastic knobs.
B002000..Sept/Oct 1976. Plastic Knobs.
B002085..Both neck and body dated 3 Nov 1976. Sunburst with Maple. White pg.
B002186..Feb 28th/Feb 24th 1977. Natural with
Maple. Black pg. White pickup cover.
B002342..Neck Date...4 March 1977. Natural.
B002348..Late Feb/Early March 1977.
B002551..1 Oct/19 Oct 1976. Sunburst with Maple.
White pg.
B002685..Sep/Oct 1976. Sunburst with Maple.
White pg. Plastic knobs.
B002852..Neck 22 Dec 1976. Body 6 Jan 1977.
B002913..2 Feb 1977.
B002916..Feb/Jan 1977. Sunburst with Maple.
Black pg.
B003019..Neck 24 Mar 1977. Body 7 Mar 1977. Natural with Maple.
B003899..Mar/Apl 1977. Sunburst with Maple.
B004041..Purchased new in July 1977. Comparison
with other Serial#s tends to confirm
1977 manufacture. Owner reluctant
to remove neck for confirmation.
B004137..Neck 8 Aug 77...Body 8 Aug 77. Natural
Body, Maple neck.
(Note that neck & body have SAME date!).
B004238..Neck 30 Dec 1977. Body June 1977.
Inca Silver.
B004313..1977. Red. Black pg. Maple.
(All hardware gold plated!!!???).
Owner says body refinished in non-
original colour and can't confirm gold
plating originality.
B004504..Jun/May 1977. Inca Silver with Maple.
B004585..Neck 21 Aug 1978!!! Body 15 Aug 1977.
Natural with Maple.
B004676..Neck 2 Dec 1977. Body 15 Dec 1977. Natural with maple.
B004887..Neck Date...15 Dec 1977. Tabacco burst.
B005130..Neck Date...21 Jan 1977. White.
B005942..12 Sep 1978/22 Feb 1978. Brown with Maple. Black pg. Affectionately known as "Brownie".
B006392..Jul/Jul 1977. Sunburst with Maple.
B006717..1977. Sunburst with Maple. Black pg.
B007380..1978. Natural with Maple.
B007779..Neck Jan 1978. Body Feb 1978. Sunburst.
B007799..Jan/Feb 1978. Sunburst with Maple.
B008003..Neck date...11 Aug 1978. Natural.
B008186..Neck 24 Oct 1978. Body 27 Sep 1978. Natural with Maple.
B008407..neck date...3 dec 1979. Natural/Maple.
black pg.
B008868..Nov/Nov 1978. Sunburst with maple.
B010612..Jan 79.
B010851..Neck date 9th Jan 1979...body has no date,
only the initials "SJ" (?) written in pencil.
Natural with Maple. Black pg.
B012025..Feb/Jan 1979. White with Maple.
B012026..Neck Feb 79...Body Jan79. White with Maple. Black pg.
B012734..Neck 1 Feb 1979. Body 27 Feb 1979. Inca Silver with Maple. Black pg.
B014050..Apl/Mar 1979. White with Maple.
B014512..Mar/Mar 1979. Black with Maple.
B015097..Owner says late 1970's. White. Black pg.
Fretless.
B020604..Neck date...6 Sept 1980. Natural.
B021384..No neck nor body dates...Black body with
Maple. Black pg. 2 Band EQ. Screw-on metal
battery cover. Brass Nut...owner believes
original. At purchase, owner advised it
was a 1981 model. 3 bolt neck.
String-through. Cutlass B022461 owned by same person.
B021500..Jan 1980.
B021613..Neck and Body Sep 1980. White with Maple.
B021890..Feb/Mar 1980.Sunburst with Maple.
B023234..Owner says early 80's. Natural with Maple. White pg. Mutes and top loaded strings.
B025462..Dec/Dec 1982. Natural with Maple. 4 bolt
neck plate. No string-through.
B025548..1982. Natural With Maple. Black pg.
B025718..Jan/Jan 1983. Sunburst with Maple. 4 bolt.
No string-through.
B027867..White. Black pg. String Mutes. Strings
top-loaded. 2 Band EQ.
Headstock has Ernie Ball logo!!!.
Serial consistent with 1983 or perhaps
early 1984.
Ernie Ball purchased MM in 1984. MM had
neck truss rod probs just prior this. Neck
possibly replaced by EB after take over.
Owner reluctant to remove neck for dates.

SABRE (1978-84)

C0013##1979. Sunburst with Maple. Black pg.
C003301..Neck and body BOTH dated 22 Aug 1979
C003454..Aug/Aug 1979. Natural with Maple.
Black pg.
C004480..8 Jun/22 Oct 1979. Black with Maple.
C004526..1979. Natural. Black pg.
C004714..Neck..17 Jul 1979. Body..2 Jul 1979.

CUTLASS 1 (Sting Ray with Graphite Neck) (1983 only)

B021850..3 Mar 1983. White.
B022461..Neck Date...14 Sept 1983
(written in marker pen). Body
date stamp...15 Sept 1983. Black
body and black pg. Brass nut..owner
believes original. 4 bolt neck. Metal
screw-on battery cover. 2 Band EQ. StingRay B021384 owned by same person.
B023033..July/Aug 1983. Black body.

CUTLASS 11 (Sabre with Graphite Neck) (1983 only)

C005666..Neck Date...18 Aug 1983. Black with Maple. Black pg.

ERNIE BALL BASSES

STINGRAY (1984-current)

25503...June 1987.
28404...24 Apl 1989. 3 band EQ. Maple neck.
orange burst. clear pg.
31190...July 1990. Trans Deep Red with Birdseye Maple.
31927...Neck 11 Sep 1990. Body 29 Aug 1990. White with Birdseye Maple. Black pg. 2 Band EQ. String Mutes.
32249...Nov 1990. 4 String. 3 Band EQ.
Blonde Body. Tortoise pg.
32906...Mar 1992. Black with Rosewood. 3 Band EQ.
33517...Jan 1992. 4 string natural. Black pg.
2 band EQ. rosewood neck.
String mutes.
33525...Jan 1992. Clear Red with Rosewood
(Bird's Eye Maple).
34962...28 May 1992..4 string..3 Band EQ.
35747...Nov 1992.
35863...Oct 1992. 4 string. 3 Band EQ. Black
body. Black pg.
36346...Apl 1993.
37693...1993. White. Tort pg. Rosewood. String
mutes. 2 band EQ.
39333...Jan 1994. Red with Maple.
39607...1994...4 String. 3 Band EQ. Natural with
Rosewood. Body one piece of wood. String
Mutes. Originally with black pg...owner
replaced with Tort pg.
40102...13 Apl 1994. Natural with bird's eye
maple. Mutes. 3 Band EQ.
41764...5 May 1994 Completion date. Black with
Rosewood. 3 Band EQ.
41871...1994. Ash body. Blond with rosewood.
String mutes. Black pg.
3 Band EQ. Top load strings.
42198...Neck 31 Aug 1994 'Sithiboun'. Body Date 9 Aug 1994.
Electronics 27 Jul 1994 'DB'. Trans Red with Rosewood (?).
42664...Sep 1994.
43312...1994. Sunburst with birdseye Maple.
Black pg. 3 Band EQ. String Mutes.
46099...Sep 1995. Trans Red with Rosewood. Black.
48630...Feb 1996. Clear Blue with Maple.
L00136..Oct 1996.
D08008..Sep 1997.
E02232..Jun 1998.
E03008..Jul 1998.
E03287..Aug 1998. Black.
E03700..Aug 1998.
E03857..Aug 1998.
E09091..6 Jan 1999. Ash/Sienna Burst with Rosewood.
E09896..Oct 1999.
E11507..Jan 2000. Trans Orange with matching headstock.
Rosewood neck. Original White Pearloid pg.
E11522..Jan 2000. Clear orange with Maple.
E11834..Jan 2000.
E12769..Mar 2000.
E13815..Apl 2000. Silver with black pickguard.
E14823..May 2000.
E19286..Dec 2000. Black sparkle with matching headstock.
Rosewood neck. Original Black pg replaced with White Pearloid.
E23573..Year 2002. Black with Rosewood. Black
pg. 3 Band EQ.
R1012...May 2002. Black Body. Maple neck.
Constructed of NOS parts.
Ebay auction for Casey Lee Ball
foundation. SignedChili Peppers
specifically for the auction.
A01825...Date Stamp 1996 only neck and body. 20th Anniversary. Quilted maple top with rosewood.
E34331...Year 2003. Natural with Maple. Black Pearloid pg. 3 Band EQ.

STINGRAY 5 (1988-current)

50444...Feb 1989
50641...Mar 1989
50738...May 1989
51080...Apl 1990. Natural.
51393...Sep 1989. Blue with Rosewood.
51532...May 1990. Natural.
52165...May 1992.
53466...Apl 1993. Black.
55066...Jul 1994.
55141...Jun 1994. Natural with Pau Ferro.
Frettless.
55978...Caramel Burst with Rosewood (?). Fretless. Circa 1994.
57834...Mar 1998!!!!!!! Black with Rosewood. Serial not in chronological order. Dated double checked by Derek at EB.
59366...Jun 1997
59528...Jun 1997. Fretless.
59655...Neck 2 Jun 1997..Body Date..24 Jul
1997. Black with Maple.
E01902...Jun 1998.
E02006...May/Jun 1998. Black with Rosewood.
E03162...1995. Sherwood Green.
Date on pre-amp pot to signify Bass assembly date or atleast when the pre-amp was installed. Especially made for German
distributer "MusikMeyer". Only 25 made. Affectionately known
as "Robin". Serial not in chronological order.
E04197...Aug 1998. Honeyburst with Rosewood
(? perhaps Pau). White
pg. White PUP.
E05288...Oct 1998
E07590...Apl 1999.
E10370...Oct 1999. White with Maple.
E10573...Dec 1999. Amberburst with Maple.
E11174...Dec 1999. Trans Green with Maple. Purchased new Jan 2000. Original white pg replaced with White Pearloid.
Affectionately known as "Heinz".
E20012...Dec99/Jan 2000. Teal with Rosewood. Matching headstock.
E20428...Jan 2001.
E20435...Jan 2001.
E27468...Nov 2001.
E27688...Dec 2001.
E33705...Oct 2002.
E35200...Feb 2003.

STERLING (1994-current)

38280...Aug 1993!!! Appears to
be in conflict with the heading '1994-current'. Serial date
supplied and double checked by Greg at EB. Advised that the
Sterling was first shown in 1993 at the Nashville NAMM show.
39935...Feb 1994. Maple neck.
40541...May 1994.
46464...Oct 1995. Black with Maple. 3 Band EQ.
White pearloide pg.
B03380...Jun 1996.
F00675...Sep 1998.
F01514...Oct 1999. Black Sparkle with Rosewood. Original Black pg replaced with White Pearloid.
F03233...Nov 2000.
F03488...Purchased 2001. Silver with matching Headstock. Rosewood Neck. Black Pearloid pg.
F03679...Feb 2001.
F03851...Mar 2001.
F04704...Sep 2001.
F05345...Jan 2002.
F07176...Jan 2002.
F08020...Year 2002. Limited Edition "Onyx" Sterling. 150 made. This Bass is number 111. Ash Body with Black finish. Matching Black Headstock. Maple neck finished in Black. Ebony Fretboard. Black pg. Black hardware. EB custom Logo and custom neck plate.

SABRE (1984-91)

29411...June 1990. Transparent
blue/teal.
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Merci 1000 fois !!! :mdr: :lol: :mdr: :lol: :mdr: :lol: :mdr: :lol: :bravo:

Je fais mes recherches et on en re-cause !!!

Encore merci.

:clin:
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Sinon y a le carbone 14




OK je sors

www.studiozone.fr


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:bravo:

Je sais, mais j'ai pas encore reçu mon accélértateur de particules !!!

Bon, je sors aussi...

:clin:
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Laissez tomber !
La datation au carbone 14 demande un labo, des techniciens, des ingénieurs et la précision du résultat vu la jeunesse de ta Musicman te donnera un résultat précis à 2000 ans près :mdr:
Autrement dit Jésus aurait peut être joué sur ta basse. Et Juda aurait slappé comme u dingue :mdr:

:idee: :idee: :idee: :idee:

Citation : T = Ln2 / lembda = 0,693 / lembda

Cette durée T s'appelle la période.

Le nombre de désintégrations par unité de temps, soit l'activité a s'exprime donc par :

a = dN / dt = -lembda N = lembda No e-lembda t = ao e-lembda t
a = ao e-lembda t

L'unité de radioactivité du Système International d'Unités ( S.I. ) est le becquerel ( Bq ) correspondant à une désintégration par seconde. Mais l'unité employée en datation par le carbone 14 est le dpm/g, soit désintégration par minute et par gramme de carbone.

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Au fait la datation ne s'applique qu'aux restes d'êtres vivants.
Ta basse c'était un gars ou une fille a moins que ça ne soit une plante verte :mdr: