Commentaires sur le test : Prenez un enfant et faites-en un roi…
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Nantho Valentine
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Sujet de la discussion Posté le 09/11/2015 à 15:02:10Commentaires sur le test : Prenez un enfant et faites-en un roi…
Comme tous les milieux, le monde des plug-ins audio est sujet à des phénomènes de mode. Il y a eu les processeurs à convolution, le recours à l’oversampling systématique, ou bien encore la fameuse vague de modélisation analogique qui d’ailleurs ne désenfle pas. En ce moment, c’est plutôt la tendance rack virtuel qui commence à prendre une certaine ampleur.
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26 Posté le 11/11/2015 à 12:52:45
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thx jeff mais ton soft en l’état est vraiment une tannée desoler j'ai encore re tester cette aprem sa colle pas pour moi...
Ca c'est une intervention très productive !
Le développeur se donne la peine de venir sur AF ( c'est rarissime )pour parler de son soft, il explique qu'il ne parle pas français, qu'il a suivi la conversation par traduction Google et toi, tout ce que tu trouves à faire, c'est de lui répondre dans un charabia intraduisible et bourré de fautes d'orthographe.
Si un jour ce type pense que les musiciens sont des cons et qu'ils passent leur temps à se regarder le nombril, je lui donnerai entièrement raison.
Si, si, j'te jure ! Quand un mec arrive à l'âge adulte et qu'il n' a pas compris les bases de sa propre langue, je me dis qu'il n'y a sûrement pas que ça qu'il n'a pas dû comprendre.
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nicosplash
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27 Posté le 11/11/2015 à 13:05:03
ton post est tous aussi productif....
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Coramel
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28 Posté le 11/11/2015 à 13:19:46
Merci pour ton message plein de points interessants Jeff 
Je testerai à nouveau Agent dans une future version, un peu plus stable je l'espère. Je le répète, le concept m'intéresse beaucoup.
Et le prix de $99 me semble bien plus intéressant. Il est normal que tout travail mérite salaire, mais $249 me semble prohibitif.
Je testerai à nouveau Agent dans une future version, un peu plus stable je l'espère. Je le répète, le concept m'intéresse beaucoup.
Et le prix de $99 me semble bien plus intéressant. Il est normal que tout travail mérite salaire, mais $249 me semble prohibitif.
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Nantho Valentine
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29 Posté le 12/11/2015 à 17:23:05
Hi Jeff !
First of all, thank you for being here with us. I know it must be difficult for you, just as it is for me right now to write in english
Your intervention is a great value for us and I'm sure every Audiofanzine's members appreciate it just as much as I do.
I'm glad you didn't take this review too badly cause I really think Agent has the potential to be a great plug-in with no equal whatsoever. But I stand by my opinion right now, stability issues and the graphic configuration nightmare are deal breakers for me.
I hope future updates are on the way to improve everything and I wish you all the best with Nyrv Systems
First of all, thank you for being here with us. I know it must be difficult for you, just as it is for me right now to write in english
I'm glad you didn't take this review too badly cause I really think Agent has the potential to be a great plug-in with no equal whatsoever. But I stand by my opinion right now, stability issues and the graphic configuration nightmare are deal breakers for me.
I hope future updates are on the way to improve everything and I wish you all the best with Nyrv Systems
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Jeff Baumet
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30 Posté le 12/11/2015 à 19:14:14
Hello Nantho,
I unfortunately can not write at all (or read or speak or understand) french so thank you for responding in English.
I really do appreciate that you took the interest in what we are doing to spend time doing this review. It many ways it seems to have even helped as we have had a spike in purchases since your review and those specifically from France.
A friend of mine helped me understand the stability problem you described better and it would be helpful if you would submit a support ticket on this topic. We used to have an issue with swapping presets but have not had a reported issue since the release of 1.2.0.3
With that said we are a plugin host as well as a plugin and that issue could be related to a specific plugin or set of plugins you were utilizing.
With regard to the "Graphics Nightmare" I must say I feel this is a somewhat unfair criticism in as much as it is entirely your option to use these graphics at all and no other plugin even gives you this option. This also applies to the custom configuration of the values, labels, and behaviors of individual parameters. If this is more work than you would like to apply it is not required. You can utilize agent the way other subhosts provide control over parameters (except AGENT isn't limited to only 8 controls)
A complete custom channel strip can be created in just a few minutes if you want to use the features you would have available in any other system. again... I point out that even then you still have 12x more controls to work with than any of those competitive products. If from there you love your creation you can spend as much or as little time as you want customizing it to your hearts content.
version 1.3 will be out shortly and I will send it to you straight away to look over. Maybe you can give me a quick heads up next time if you are going to tell the french speaking world to not support our efforts
I might be able to shed additional light on the features and benefits of the product.
In all seriousness though. I do genuinely appreciate the attention and the ability to respond here with at least a different perspective on your experience. Maybe we could even put it as an addendum to the review for those who don't read the comments?
Kind Regards,
Jeff
I unfortunately can not write at all (or read or speak or understand) french so thank you for responding in English.
I really do appreciate that you took the interest in what we are doing to spend time doing this review. It many ways it seems to have even helped as we have had a spike in purchases since your review and those specifically from France.
A friend of mine helped me understand the stability problem you described better and it would be helpful if you would submit a support ticket on this topic. We used to have an issue with swapping presets but have not had a reported issue since the release of 1.2.0.3
With that said we are a plugin host as well as a plugin and that issue could be related to a specific plugin or set of plugins you were utilizing.
With regard to the "Graphics Nightmare" I must say I feel this is a somewhat unfair criticism in as much as it is entirely your option to use these graphics at all and no other plugin even gives you this option. This also applies to the custom configuration of the values, labels, and behaviors of individual parameters. If this is more work than you would like to apply it is not required. You can utilize agent the way other subhosts provide control over parameters (except AGENT isn't limited to only 8 controls)
A complete custom channel strip can be created in just a few minutes if you want to use the features you would have available in any other system. again... I point out that even then you still have 12x more controls to work with than any of those competitive products. If from there you love your creation you can spend as much or as little time as you want customizing it to your hearts content.
version 1.3 will be out shortly and I will send it to you straight away to look over. Maybe you can give me a quick heads up next time if you are going to tell the french speaking world to not support our efforts
In all seriousness though. I do genuinely appreciate the attention and the ability to respond here with at least a different perspective on your experience. Maybe we could even put it as an addendum to the review for those who don't read the comments?
Kind Regards,
Jeff
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Maïs Dévisse
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31 Posté le 14/11/2015 à 17:38:05
Pour info, un concept similaire est déjà présent dans FL Studio avec Patcher.
https://www.image-line.com/support/FLHelp/html/plugins/Patcher.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSJMToE0ko8
et FL Studio pouvant être hosté comme un VSTi dans n'importe quel DAW, c'est une solution pour bien moins cher...
https://www.image-line.com/support/FLHelp/html/plugins/Patcher.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSJMToE0ko8
et FL Studio pouvant être hosté comme un VSTi dans n'importe quel DAW, c'est une solution pour bien moins cher...
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CaliMoose
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32 Posté le 24/11/2015 à 17:50:04
Citation de Jeff :
Maybe you can give me a quick heads up next time if you are going to tell the french speaking world to not support our effortsI might be able to shed additional light on the features and benefits of the product.
Hi Jeff,
Sorry for being late to the party (while I speak french, I don't write it well enough to join the lion's den we call the Audiofanzine forums. I'm usually managing Audiofanzine's english site as well as our other english-speaking forums).
First of all, thanks for your input! It goes a long way in building trust and credibility among our community, even if it is in english!
It's important to note, however, that any time we provide an unflattering review of a product, the manufacturer/developer naturally tries to convince our editors to change their minds and provide an addendum to the review.
A huge reason why our readers trust our reviews is because we have highly experienced writers who put each and every product through a fair test before providing their (sometimes brutally) honest reviews. Unfortunately, in today's day and age, most reviews tend to be unrealistically positive, often because the manufacturer's, themselves, have in some way or another influenced the editor.
Suffice it to say that this simply isn't how the french are, especially the french that write for Audiofanzine
Having said that, should there ever be any objectively incorrect information in our reviews, please feel free to reach out to the writer or me directly, as we don't want to misinform our readers. I've reached out through the Nyrv Systems "contact us" page (my email's domain name is bordasmedia). You can email me your relevant contact information and I'll be sure to reach out to you shortly after any product reviews have been published.
The most important takeaway here is that our reviewer, as well as many members, love the idea (which isn't always the case). There are certainly things that your product has done well, and nothing will convert prospects into customers like implementing their feedback!
So we look forward to future updates and improvements. Agent's potential as an uncontested game-changer in the industry is unquestionable.
Cheers,
Armon
Et pour le mec qui a repondu genre "thx jeff mais ton soft en l’état est vraiment une tannée desoler j'ai encore re tester cette aprem sa colle pas pour moi... ".......ce gars ne parle pas français, a bossé dûr pour developer ce produit, puis il participe dans ces forums francophones, et c'est ça ta réponse ?
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