Un son heavy metal.
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aerialdrunker
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Sujet de la discussion Posté le 28/04/2004 à 11:48:17Un son heavy metal.
Salut, j'aimerai savoir ce que vous me conseilleriez pour avoir un son style heavy metal...
je joue du metal speed sympho a la freedom call, strato, rhapsody.... et dy symphony x...enfin vous voyez le style.....
on ne parle que du "gros" son style mesa..... mais moi, je veux pas d'un son enorme style 5150 (que je trouve a chier soit dit en passant pour mon style)....
donc quels peuvent etre les solutions a mes attentes?
du rack style un ada mp1?
un préamp a modelisation style TL se?
Une tete style warhead?
Pour le budget..... c'est sure que le moins cher possible c'est pas mal.. mais apres, je peux economiser, vu que c'est pas pour dessuite.... c'est pour me faire une idée...
Ce à quoi j'avais pensé:
ada mp1, voodu valve, tonelab normal ou se, spider II head, warhead.....
j'ai vu aussi que pas mal de groupe utilisé des préamp style ada ou marshall....
n'hesitez pas a me donner des conseils plus qu'il n'en faut....
merci d'avance.
.oO°Oo. It's nice to be important but it's more important to be nice .oO°Oo.
je joue du metal speed sympho a la freedom call, strato, rhapsody.... et dy symphony x...enfin vous voyez le style.....
on ne parle que du "gros" son style mesa..... mais moi, je veux pas d'un son enorme style 5150 (que je trouve a chier soit dit en passant pour mon style)....
donc quels peuvent etre les solutions a mes attentes?
du rack style un ada mp1?
un préamp a modelisation style TL se?
Une tete style warhead?
Pour le budget..... c'est sure que le moins cher possible c'est pas mal.. mais apres, je peux economiser, vu que c'est pas pour dessuite.... c'est pour me faire une idée...
Ce à quoi j'avais pensé:
ada mp1, voodu valve, tonelab normal ou se, spider II head, warhead.....
j'ai vu aussi que pas mal de groupe utilisé des préamp style ada ou marshall....
n'hesitez pas a me donner des conseils plus qu'il n'en faut....
merci d'avance.
.oO°Oo. It's nice to be important but it's more important to be nice .oO°Oo.
aerialdrunker
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41 Posté le 28/04/2004 à 16:48:20
Sinon, on peut enregistrer combien de preset sur le voodu? quelqu'un le sait?
.oO°Oo. It's nice to be important but it's more important to be nice .oO°Oo.
.oO°Oo. It's nice to be important but it's more important to be nice .oO°Oo.
XtReMiSt
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42 Posté le 28/04/2004 à 16:48:36
Heureux possesseur d'un piranha, je te confirme que le hush est
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43 Posté le 28/04/2004 à 16:49:10
Le nombre de preset est tres suffisant je pense a mon avis mini 64
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44 Posté le 28/04/2004 à 16:50:15
Citation : Sinon, on peut enregistrer combien de preset sur le voodu? quelqu'un le sait?
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aerialdrunker
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45 Posté le 28/04/2004 à 16:50:34
C'est marrant qu'un préamp midi aussi vieux soit encore aussi bon.....
mais c'est vrai que le coté midi (meme si le pedalier est cher) reste sympa... surtout pour moi qui change souvent de son vu mon style...
.oO°Oo. It's nice to be important but it's more important to be nice .oO°Oo.
mais c'est vrai que le coté midi (meme si le pedalier est cher) reste sympa... surtout pour moi qui change souvent de son vu mon style...
.oO°Oo. It's nice to be important but it's more important to be nice .oO°Oo.
aerialdrunker
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46 Posté le 28/04/2004 à 16:51:19
Citation : 254
spa vrai
.oO°Oo. It's nice to be important but it's more important to be nice .oO°Oo.
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47 Posté le 28/04/2004 à 16:54:57
There is no other preamp quite like Rocktron’s world famous VooDu Valve Online. This awesome digital/tube preamp includes an incredible DSP effects section. Successfully combining a digital world with tube warmth is something Rocktron takes great pride in, and the VooDu Valve Online is just one of the results. A kick-butt, take no prisoners guitar preamp, the VooDu unites Rocktron’s world-renowned DSP effects (using a 24-bit Motorola DSP engine) with the warmth of today’s tube technology.
The VooDu Valve defines new standards, giving you the warmth and clarity of your favorite plexi or pre-CBS combo in a single-rack package and is unique in the way that you can choose either High or Low tube gain selections dependent on how much tube break-up you want for any application. If you want an ultra-clean tone with a sharp edge and minimal distortion, select "low" tube gain presets. If your tone requires a tinge of dirt, dial up "high" tube gain selections and run minimal digital distortion to get natural medium-saturated tones reminiscent of a maxed out half stack. And for you "gain-heads", run "high" tube gain with digital clipping...you have to hear this!
Guitar One Magazine wrote: "Right off the bat, the Voodu's presets offer a veritable cornucopia of versatility. It was clearly a primary focus of Rocktron to equip their new preamp with a wide range of preset programs from the most pristine clean to the obscenely mean. Pretty much every degree of warm, lownlevel dirt and blistering lead tones can be conjured up from this high-tech witch doctor."
The Preamp section also includes very usable controls not found on other preamps, like Variac, Pentode, Triode and Solid State voicings. With the Voodu’s incredible four-band post EQ section and comprehensive pre EQ section, you will never run out of tone shaping ideas. Guitar One Magazine said: "The unit’s full parametric EQ (pre and post) is extremely flexible and allows a very high degree of custom tone tampering."
The VooDu Valve Online is loaded with tons of famous effects found in other Rocktron award winning products. Effects which resemble the sought after sounds of your favorite vintage analog stomp boxes include two-tap chorusing, dual- mode phaser, two-tap flanger, compression, frequency programmable wah-wah, tremolo, reverb, echo-like delay featuring unique tap tempo mode, pitch shift, and HUSH® noise reduction placed after the preamp and before the effects where it should be, (no noise reduction after the effects as you find with cheaper, noisier preamps).
With the VooDu Valve Online, sharing presets on Rocktron’s website Patch Bay is a breeze, (although Rocktron has already included 254 user-programmable presets). And the VooDu is both stage and studio ready with balanced XLR outputs (with level control) and ¼" outs. The Speaker Simulator in the VooDu is a work of art, providing parameters for Speaker Size, MIC Placement and patented Reactance parameter. All MIDI functions have been implemented including eight parameter continuous control and mapping. Plug into a Rocktron All Access®, MIDI controller and many new time-saving MIDI extras will come to light, such as pre-assigned effect controller on/off functions, boost option and titles that automatically transfer from the VooDu Valve to the All Access. You can also use a Rocktron MIDI Mate or MIDI Xchange controller for many of the VooDu functions.
Headphone output and tap tempo delay are included as well. Guitar One Magazine commented: "But, wait—hold the phone! Possibly the most impressive aspect of the VooDu Valve. is it's speaker simulator. Select Speaker Type (15", 12", to", 8" and Full Range), adjust Mic and Placement (positive values simulate moving the mic toward the center of the speaker cone, negative values toward it's edge), and last but certainly not least, add chest-pounding, tooth-rattling, bowel-liquefying speaker Cabinet chunk with the Reactance control. Use the speaker simulator even if you're not going direct. True, it works amazingly in the direct application, but take advantage of its tone shaping options even when using speakers to add the finishing touch to your tone."
For more in-depth information on the VooDu Valve Online, you can check out the product manual in the SUPPPORT section of this website.
Specifications:
Input Impedance: 470K ohms, Output Impedance: <150 ohms, Maximum input/output level: +20dBu, MIDI in: 7 pin DIN, Power Requirements: 9VAC 3400mA, Dimensions: 19" x 1.75" x 7", UL and CSA approved operation
VooDu Valve™ is a trademark of GHS Corporation.
All Access® and HUSH® are registered trademarks of GHS Corporation.
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Chopé sur le site de Rocktron, je viens de vérifier, c n'a pas chnagé depuis ma denrière visite ;)
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Give me fuel, give me fire, give me that witch I desire
The VooDu Valve defines new standards, giving you the warmth and clarity of your favorite plexi or pre-CBS combo in a single-rack package and is unique in the way that you can choose either High or Low tube gain selections dependent on how much tube break-up you want for any application. If you want an ultra-clean tone with a sharp edge and minimal distortion, select "low" tube gain presets. If your tone requires a tinge of dirt, dial up "high" tube gain selections and run minimal digital distortion to get natural medium-saturated tones reminiscent of a maxed out half stack. And for you "gain-heads", run "high" tube gain with digital clipping...you have to hear this!
Guitar One Magazine wrote: "Right off the bat, the Voodu's presets offer a veritable cornucopia of versatility. It was clearly a primary focus of Rocktron to equip their new preamp with a wide range of preset programs from the most pristine clean to the obscenely mean. Pretty much every degree of warm, lownlevel dirt and blistering lead tones can be conjured up from this high-tech witch doctor."
The Preamp section also includes very usable controls not found on other preamps, like Variac, Pentode, Triode and Solid State voicings. With the Voodu’s incredible four-band post EQ section and comprehensive pre EQ section, you will never run out of tone shaping ideas. Guitar One Magazine said: "The unit’s full parametric EQ (pre and post) is extremely flexible and allows a very high degree of custom tone tampering."
The VooDu Valve Online is loaded with tons of famous effects found in other Rocktron award winning products. Effects which resemble the sought after sounds of your favorite vintage analog stomp boxes include two-tap chorusing, dual- mode phaser, two-tap flanger, compression, frequency programmable wah-wah, tremolo, reverb, echo-like delay featuring unique tap tempo mode, pitch shift, and HUSH® noise reduction placed after the preamp and before the effects where it should be, (no noise reduction after the effects as you find with cheaper, noisier preamps).
With the VooDu Valve Online, sharing presets on Rocktron’s website Patch Bay is a breeze, (although Rocktron has already included 254 user-programmable presets). And the VooDu is both stage and studio ready with balanced XLR outputs (with level control) and ¼" outs. The Speaker Simulator in the VooDu is a work of art, providing parameters for Speaker Size, MIC Placement and patented Reactance parameter. All MIDI functions have been implemented including eight parameter continuous control and mapping. Plug into a Rocktron All Access®, MIDI controller and many new time-saving MIDI extras will come to light, such as pre-assigned effect controller on/off functions, boost option and titles that automatically transfer from the VooDu Valve to the All Access. You can also use a Rocktron MIDI Mate or MIDI Xchange controller for many of the VooDu functions.
Headphone output and tap tempo delay are included as well. Guitar One Magazine commented: "But, wait—hold the phone! Possibly the most impressive aspect of the VooDu Valve. is it's speaker simulator. Select Speaker Type (15", 12", to", 8" and Full Range), adjust Mic and Placement (positive values simulate moving the mic toward the center of the speaker cone, negative values toward it's edge), and last but certainly not least, add chest-pounding, tooth-rattling, bowel-liquefying speaker Cabinet chunk with the Reactance control. Use the speaker simulator even if you're not going direct. True, it works amazingly in the direct application, but take advantage of its tone shaping options even when using speakers to add the finishing touch to your tone."
For more in-depth information on the VooDu Valve Online, you can check out the product manual in the SUPPPORT section of this website.
Specifications:
Input Impedance: 470K ohms, Output Impedance: <150 ohms, Maximum input/output level: +20dBu, MIDI in: 7 pin DIN, Power Requirements: 9VAC 3400mA, Dimensions: 19" x 1.75" x 7", UL and CSA approved operation
VooDu Valve™ is a trademark of GHS Corporation.
All Access® and HUSH® are registered trademarks of GHS Corporation.
______________________________________________________________________
Chopé sur le site de Rocktron, je viens de vérifier, c n'a pas chnagé depuis ma denrière visite ;)
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Give me fuel, give me fire, give me that witch I desire
aerialdrunker
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48 Posté le 28/04/2004 à 16:58:08
Il se vend neuf sur thonman... mais les simu d'hp n'ont pas changées... c'est dommage... l'enregistrement en cadeau c'est quand meme sympa.....
donc, le choix se cible vers le voodu valve.....
c'est vrai que c'est pas mal.....
au fait 101, le mp3 que tu m'as envoyé? c'est direct sur console ou avec un PA et un cab?
.oO°Oo. It's nice to be important but it's more important to be nice .oO°Oo.
donc, le choix se cible vers le voodu valve.....
c'est vrai que c'est pas mal.....
au fait 101, le mp3 que tu m'as envoyé? c'est direct sur console ou avec un PA et un cab?
.oO°Oo. It's nice to be important but it's more important to be nice .oO°Oo.
Anonyme
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49 Posté le 28/04/2004 à 17:10:55
Non, le mp3 que je t'ai envoyé ce sont des prises son avec un micro (shure SM58), voodu valve branché dans le return de mon JCM900.
...concernant les simulation de HP du voodu valve, en son clair c'est nikel, pour les sons saturés, en solo ca le fait, et pour les rythmique "metal" il faut prendre le temps de bidouiller pour avoir de bons résultats, ca reste trés correct mais sans plus...
le simulateur de HP n'est pas le point fort du voodu valve...POD et consort s'en sortent mieux sur ce point de vue.
...concernant les simulation de HP du voodu valve, en son clair c'est nikel, pour les sons saturés, en solo ca le fait, et pour les rythmique "metal" il faut prendre le temps de bidouiller pour avoir de bons résultats, ca reste trés correct mais sans plus...
le simulateur de HP n'est pas le point fort du voodu valve...POD et consort s'en sortent mieux sur ce point de vue.
aerialdrunker
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50 Posté le 28/04/2004 à 17:13:23
Au pire je branche une di box... n'oublie pas aerial que c'est pour les répét et la scene.....
j'espere juste que le son n'est pas trop typé transistor.... mon VS100 qui est hybride avec une lampe (comme le rocktron) ne sonne pas du tout metal... donc pour jouer du nightwish ou du sonata arctica, je suis un peu limité.... avec le rocktron.... vais je etre agréablement surpris?.....
.oO°Oo. It's nice to be important but it's more important to be nice .oO°Oo.
j'espere juste que le son n'est pas trop typé transistor.... mon VS100 qui est hybride avec une lampe (comme le rocktron) ne sonne pas du tout metal... donc pour jouer du nightwish ou du sonata arctica, je suis un peu limité.... avec le rocktron.... vais je etre agréablement surpris?.....
.oO°Oo. It's nice to be important but it's more important to be nice .oO°Oo.
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