Plus de son en outputs
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rataxes
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Sujet de la discussion Posté le 20/07/2016 à 17:05:23Plus de son en outputs
salut quelqu un pourrait il m aider car depuis ce matin plus aucun sort de mon AR .. :/
aucun outputs fonctionnent ni meme le casque
meme apres le factory reset ..
une idée please car la le moral est a 0 ...
merci
aucun outputs fonctionnent ni meme le casque
meme apres le factory reset ..
une idée please car la le moral est a 0 ...
merci
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21 Posté le 22/07/2016 à 12:00:05
oui qui peu le plus peu le moins 
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willowhisper56
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22 Posté le 22/07/2016 à 13:07:51
C'est qui qui peut le plus ? Ça me met le doute. P=UI
AR = 12 x 2 = 24w
OT = 6 x 3 = 18w
AR = 12 x 2 = 24w
OT = 6 x 3 = 18w
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yomanfree
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23 Posté le 22/07/2016 à 22:31:13
C'est tout a fait ca.
Appliquer une tension trop eleve a des transistors peut amener a 2 choses:
- destruction de transistors (rupture de gate etc...)
- reduction de la duree de vie (appele NBTI).
Tout ca est tres dependant des techno utilises pour les differents CI. Cependant il est fort probable qu'une protection existe a l'entree du supply. Mais appliquer une tension trop elevee peut aussi endommager la protection.
Appliquer une tension trop eleve a des transistors peut amener a 2 choses:
- destruction de transistors (rupture de gate etc...)
- reduction de la duree de vie (appele NBTI).
Tout ca est tres dependant des techno utilises pour les differents CI. Cependant il est fort probable qu'une protection existe a l'entree du supply. Mais appliquer une tension trop elevee peut aussi endommager la protection.
Citation de Ho'Dog :
Citation :ça c'est pas grave dans ce sens, il prendra ce qui lui faut...
t'es sur?
pour l'intensité OK, mais pour la tension?
"Le succès, c'est d'aller d’échec en échec sans perdre son enthousiasme"
yomanfree
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24 Posté le 22/07/2016 à 22:38:14
C'est exact pour le bloc d'alim. Mais dans le cadre d'une tension trop faible applique a un circuit electronique, la conso n'est plus la meme que celle prevue a la tension nominale (ou min/max).
En resume la conso des circuits que tu alimentes va varier avec la tension appliquee.
Savoir comment des circuits electroniques reagissent a une tension plus faibles est difficile a prevoir sans examiner les circuits. Surtout qu'ici on a de l'analo et du digital mixte. C'est encore plus difficile quand on peut supposer que la tension d'entree est probablement transformer en plusieurs autres tension par des LDO ou charge pump etc...
En resume la conso des circuits que tu alimentes va varier avec la tension appliquee.
Savoir comment des circuits electroniques reagissent a une tension plus faibles est difficile a prevoir sans examiner les circuits. Surtout qu'ici on a de l'analo et du digital mixte. C'est encore plus difficile quand on peut supposer que la tension d'entree est probablement transformer en plusieurs autres tension par des LDO ou charge pump etc...
Citation de willowhisper56 :
C'est qui qui peut le plus ? Ça me met le doute. P=UI
AR = 12 x 2 = 24w
OT = 6 x 3 = 18w
"Le succès, c'est d'aller d’échec en échec sans perdre son enthousiasme"
willowhisper56
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25 Posté le 23/07/2016 à 11:29:12
Merci pour ces précisions mais quid de l'ampérage ? Si tu branches l'AR sur une batterie 12v 70A ça fume tout le monde !?
Bien pour du conceptuel cela dit. Facturer en conséquence.
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Bien pour du conceptuel cela dit. Facturer en conséquence.
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26 Posté le 23/07/2016 à 14:40:46
Une alim ne fournit en amperage que ce que la machine demande (quelque soit l'amperage max de l'alim).... sauf si la machine demande plus que ce que l'alim peut fournir.
C'est pareil que ton frigo ou lave linge etc.... tu fais pas sauter ton disjoncteur EDF en branchant tes appareils. Car seul le courant demande par la machine est fournie. Si ton frigo ou lave linge bouffaient tout ce qu'EDF peut fournir, je te raconte pas ta facture d'electricite (si tu as le temps de la payer et que tes fils electriques ont pas fondu avant)
C'est pareil que ton frigo ou lave linge etc.... tu fais pas sauter ton disjoncteur EDF en branchant tes appareils. Car seul le courant demande par la machine est fournie. Si ton frigo ou lave linge bouffaient tout ce qu'EDF peut fournir, je te raconte pas ta facture d'electricite (si tu as le temps de la payer et que tes fils electriques ont pas fondu avant)
Citation de willowhisper56 :
Merci pour ces précisions mais quid de l'ampérage ? Si tu branches l'AR sur une batterie 12v 70A ça fume tout le monde !?
Bien pour du conceptuel cela dit. Facturer en conséquence.
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"Le succès, c'est d'aller d’échec en échec sans perdre son enthousiasme"
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Ok doc merci.
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