Sujet Mais pourquoi est-elle si cher?!

Hors sujet : c'est bien ce que je disais, tu glandouilles

Hors sujet : Maintenant, petite question pour Miles... Pourquoi les convertisseurs Weiss, Crane et autre sont si chers par rapport à du RME ? pourquoi est ce que tout le monde dans les studios pro ne se contente pas d'une ou plusieurs carte RME ?
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Citation : > All of Saturday I've compared these two converters. The RME has a very
> usable gain switch on the front (-10dBv, +4dBu or Hi Gain), both for
> input & output, which is sadly missing on the Apogee.
>
> Apogee Rosetta 800 is approx. US$4.900 in Denmark.
> RME ADI-8 DS is approx. US$3.000 in Denmark.
> (Yes, it's an expensive country. Prices are probably around half in the
> US or other countries)
>
> So far 1 - 0 to RME on the price.
>
> 11 stereo tracks in Logic Pro (piano from SampleTank Piano Collection,
> strings from Peter Siedlachez Library, bass from ES2, drums and
> percussion from Hit Kit V2, + reverb from SpaceDesigner) have been sent
> individually using a sync'ed ADAT output from a RME Hammerfall 96/52 PCI
> card to the converters. Then in the converter going D/A and back again
> A/D using HQ D-Sub cables. So D/A and A/D on 11 stereo tracks on the
> same machine are being accumulated instead of just comparing a single
> stereo mix. The 11 tracks are summed in Logic Pro, and I have two
> virtually identical mixes which can be compared. I have used the RME for
> listening to the two mixes, monitoring on ADAM S2.5A's.
>
> The original internal mix bounce peaks @ 0.0dBFS in Logic Pro.
> Both Apogee and RME mix peaks @ -0.5 dBFS (which would be expected when
> simply going D/A - D/A without any gain or trim).
>
> First impressions of the Apogee mix is very clear and nice top
> frequencies. The low end is apparently ever so slightly less than the
> RME mix (which isn't so actually, explained later). Great stereo
> perception. A top converter, no doubt.
>
> The RME mix seems to have a bit less top freqs, with more bottom. But
> no, actually the RME mix just seems to be slightly louder. Hm, both peak
> at -0.5dBFS. Okay, I need to do some RMS measurements with Waves PAZ.
>
> Aha!
>
> Original mix RMS -7.6
> RME mix RMS -7.7
> Apogee mix RMS -8.1
>
> So the 0.4dB difference may has caused more bass perception
> (Fletcher-Munson theory), volume down 0.4dB on the RME mix and the low
> freqs seem to be equal in both mixes now. Problem solved. However,
> that's points to RME for being closer to the original mix with truer
output.
>
> 2 - 0 to RME.
>
> While doing measurements, I might as well do a DC Offset check.
>
> Apogee mix: 0.008% DC Offset
> RME mix: 0.000% DC Offset
>
> 0.008% isn't much, but that's still 0.008% too much. Points for RME again.
>
> 3 -0 to RME.
>
> However, just listening, no bias, both converters are excellent. I admit
> that I most likely wouldn't get it right everytime in a blind test. But
> with a price difference of around US$1.900, and the nice gain select
> switches, I would go for RME any day, so I think I'll buy that instead.
> Only negative thing about the ADI-8 DS is that the overload LED peaks at
> -2dBFS, which makes the LEDs pretty useless in my opinion.
>
> While this comparison was done in 44.1kHz, both are capable of 96kHz. I
> will do a 96kHz test later, and also I will test the clipping sound of
> both (not the soft limit function in Apogee, which I dislike for
> anything else than live use). So far the clipping in the RME sounds
amazing.
>