Mais pourquoi est-elle si cher?!

Hors sujet : Mr99 : on dirait que tu glandoulles bien toutes aprèm midi, tout comme moi...

Hors sujet : c'est bien ce que je disais, tu glandouilles

Hors sujet : Maintenant, petite question pour Miles... Pourquoi les convertisseurs Weiss, Crane et autre sont si chers par rapport à du RME ? pourquoi est ce que tout le monde dans les studios pro ne se contente pas d'une ou plusieurs carte RME ?
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Citation : > All of Saturday I've compared these two converters. The RME has a very
> usable gain switch on the front (-10dBv, +4dBu or Hi Gain), both for
> input & output, which is sadly missing on the Apogee.
>
> Apogee Rosetta 800 is approx. US$4.900 in Denmark.
> RME ADI-8 DS is approx. US$3.000 in Denmark.
> (Yes, it's an expensive country. Prices are probably around half in the
> US or other countries)
>
> So far 1 - 0 to RME on the price.
>
> 11 stereo tracks in Logic Pro (piano from SampleTank Piano Collection,
> strings from Peter Siedlachez Library, bass from ES2, drums and
> percussion from Hit Kit V2, + reverb from SpaceDesigner) have been sent
> individually using a sync'ed ADAT output from a RME Hammerfall 96/52 PCI
> card to the converters. Then in the converter going D/A and back again
> A/D using HQ D-Sub cables. So D/A and A/D on 11 stereo tracks on the
> same machine are being accumulated instead of just comparing a single
> stereo mix. The 11 tracks are summed in Logic Pro, and I have two
> virtually identical mixes which can be compared. I have used the RME for
> listening to the two mixes, monitoring on ADAM S2.5A's.
>
> The original internal mix bounce peaks @ 0.0dBFS in Logic Pro.
> Both Apogee and RME mix peaks @ -0.5 dBFS (which would be expected when
> simply going D/A - D/A without any gain or trim).
>
> First impressions of the Apogee mix is very clear and nice top
> frequencies. The low end is apparently ever so slightly less than the
> RME mix (which isn't so actually, explained later). Great stereo
> perception. A top converter, no doubt.
>
> The RME mix seems to have a bit less top freqs, with more bottom. But
> no, actually the RME mix just seems to be slightly louder. Hm, both peak
> at -0.5dBFS. Okay, I need to do some RMS measurements with Waves PAZ.
>
> Aha!
>
> Original mix RMS -7.6
> RME mix RMS -7.7
> Apogee mix RMS -8.1
>
> So the 0.4dB difference may has caused more bass perception
> (Fletcher-Munson theory), volume down 0.4dB on the RME mix and the low
> freqs seem to be equal in both mixes now. Problem solved. However,
> that's points to RME for being closer to the original mix with truer
output.
>
> 2 - 0 to RME.
>
> While doing measurements, I might as well do a DC Offset check.
>
> Apogee mix: 0.008% DC Offset
> RME mix: 0.000% DC Offset
>
> 0.008% isn't much, but that's still 0.008% too much. Points for RME again.
>
> 3 -0 to RME.
>
> However, just listening, no bias, both converters are excellent. I admit
> that I most likely wouldn't get it right everytime in a blind test. But
> with a price difference of around US$1.900, and the nice gain select
> switches, I would go for RME any day, so I think I'll buy that instead.
> Only negative thing about the ADI-8 DS is that the overload LED peaks at
> -2dBFS, which makes the LEDs pretty useless in my opinion.
>
> While this comparison was done in 44.1kHz, both are capable of 96kHz. I
> will do a 96kHz test later, and also I will test the clipping sound of
> both (not the soft limit function in Apogee, which I dislike for
> anything else than live use). So far the clipping in the RME sounds
amazing.
>

Hors sujet : Cela étant dit, ma position sur RME/Apogee est claire. Je voulais faire un contrepoids pour relancer autre chose qu'une simple comparaison "Papier" dont on est tous assez coutumiers sur AF... Et si demain je changeais ma carte son, j'acheterais une RME, ne serait ce que pour la qualité du driver et le serieux de la boite...

Citation : convertisseur dédié ADI... et non d'une Fireface...

Hors sujet : Je vais de ce pas leur poser la question à RME... on verra ce qu'ils me répondent...