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Tilleul
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Nouvel·le AFfilié·e
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Sujet de la discussion Posté le 02/11/2002 à 21:01:56Plus d'info .
Voila une carte qui a l'air vraiment pas mal et qui est pourtant peu connue ...
ou peut-on trouver plus d'info (manuel ?) sur cette carte ? le site de Edirol est très succinct et comme toujours avec les produits Roland & co, impossible de télécharger un manuel ...
est-ce que quelqu'un l'utilise sur PC ? comment se comporte t elle selon les cpu et les chipsets ?
est-elle vraiment full duplex meme à 96kHz ? etc etc ...
ou peut-on trouver plus d'info (manuel ?) sur cette carte ? le site de Edirol est très succinct et comme toujours avec les produits Roland & co, impossible de télécharger un manuel ...
est-ce que quelqu'un l'utilise sur PC ? comment se comporte t elle selon les cpu et les chipsets ?
est-elle vraiment full duplex meme à 96kHz ? etc etc ...
Tilleul
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Nouvel·le AFfilié·e
Membre depuis 22 ans
2 Posté le 03/11/2002 à 16:54:36
Comme toujours chez Roland, y a plus d'info sur leurs pages en japonais ...
http://www.roland.co.jp/products/dtm/DA-2496.html
http://www.roland.co.jp/cs/faq/DA-2496/index.html
Intéressant car contient le schéma électrique du DA-2496 ... ca permet de bien se rendre compte de ce qu'elle sait ou pas faire ...
traduction (approximative et en anglais) par Altavista/Systran:
[.] [EDIROL??????] [??????]
[.] [DA-2496] <http://babelfish.altavista.com/image/EDRicon_mac.gif> <http://babelfish.altavista.com/image/EDRicon_win.gif>
[.]
<http://babelfish.altavista.com/image/DA-2496/catch.gif>
<http://babelfish.altavista.com/image/DA-2496/DA-2496.jpg>
<http://babelfish.altavista.com/image/DA-2496/SET.jpg>
The DA-2496 is audio * interface of the 8IN/8OUT which corresponds to the 24-bit/96kHz which can be used with the DOS/V and the Macintosh which equip the PCI bus. It consists of the substance unit and the private coupling cable of the interface * card and 1u rack * mount * style of the PCI board. Maximum of 8 systems it takes in, input from various sources such as condenser & microphone and electricity * guitar to the personal computer simultaneously, it is possible to output to maximum of 8 systematic parallels in the external equipment. From real music production at the home, to the professional recording * studio, the solution of audio input/output is offered at the wide area.
[.]
<http://babelfish.altavista.com/image/DA-2496/1.gif>
It corresponds to the audio simultaneous input/output of channel 8. With the preponderant treble quality, 24-bit/96kHz, professional * quality - digital sound recording / playback is actualized. Sampling * rate corresponds to the 22.05.96kHz. Standard it equips also the MIDI input/output terminal and the word * clock input/output terminal.
<http://babelfish.altavista.com/image/DA-2496/2.gif>
In input, 2 systems of the ??? * jack of XLR balance and the TRS balance whose supply of ????? power source is possible, the high * impedance where you can connect to direct the guitar and the base (Hi-Z) the terminal 2 systematic equipment. Furthermore, the colorful input/output terminal which does not choose the connected equipment is equipped e.g., the digital input/output terminal (the ?????? / optical) it has.
[.]
<http://babelfish.altavista.com/image/DA-2496/3.gif>
As for digital * mixer of built-in, from control * panel of personal computer to direct control possibility. Mixing the audio * data in regard to input and the computer of channel 8, channel 2 it is possible to output.
In addition, real time * monitoring is actualized with the direct * monitoring function which does not mind the application on the computer.
<http://babelfish.altavista.com/image/DA-2496/4.gif>
The SONAR (the TM) and the like WDM corresponding application and the Cubase (the TM), the Logic (the TM) the ASIO which is begun (the TM) high performance is shown with corresponding application.
* The MME (the Windows (R)) and the Sound Manager (the Mac OS (R)) with corresponding application we do not correspond to multichannel.
<http://babelfish.altavista.com/image/DA-2496/diagram.gif>
[.]
[??????]
<http://babelfish.altavista.com/image/DA-2496/rear.jpg>
[????]
[.]
- Signal processing
AD conversion: 24 bits, 64 time over * sampling, channel 8
DA conversion: 24 bits, 128 time over * sampling, channel 8
- Sampling * rate
At the time of CLOCK SOURCE=INTERNAL: 22.05, 24, 32,44.1, 48, 88.2, 96kHz
At the time of CLOCK SOURCE=EXTERNAL: 32, 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96kHz
- Monitor & mixer
The number of input channels: 16, the number of output channels: 2
Fader -: -144. 0 dB
Operational precision: 36 bit
- Input:
Input 1,2: ????? power source equipped XLR, or standard TRS balance
Input 3,4: Standard TRS balance or standard Hi-Z
Imbalance
Input 5.8: Standard TRS balance
S/P DIF: ?????? and optical
Word * clock:
MIDI:
* As for S/P DIF input INPUT 7,8 to change
- Output:
OUTPUT1-8: Standard TRS balance
PHONES: Standard stereo
S/P DIF: ?????? and optical
Word * clock:
MIDI:
- Stipulated input level (variable)
Input 1.2 = -60. +4 dBu
Input 3.8 = -50. +4 dBu
- Stipulated output level
Output 1.8 = + 4dBu (at the time of balance)
- Input impedance
Input 1.8 (XLR and standard TRS): 20 K Omega
Input 3,4 (standard Hi-Z): 470k Omega
- Output impedance
Output 1.8: 300 Omega
- Recommendation load impedance
Output 1.8: 300 Omega: 10k Omega or more
Headphone: 20.600 Omega
- Connected terminal
Input * jack 1,2: XLR balance, ????? power source standard type and TRS balance
Input * jack 3,4: Standard type, TRS balance standard type and imbalance (GUITAR Hi-Z)
Input * jack 5.8: Standard type and TRS balance
Output * jack 1.8: Standard type and TRS balance
Headphone & jack: Stereo standard type
Digital * in * connector: ?????? * type and optical * type
Digital * out * connector: ?????? * type and optical * type
Word clock * in * jack: BNC type
Word clock * out * jack: BNC type
Private connector: 25 pins, D-sub type
- External size 482 (width) ×223 (depth) ×44 (height) mm
- Mass 2.65kg
- Accessory instruction manual, CD-ROM and interface * card (DA-PCI), interface * cable
[.] * Operating condition Windows
- Corresponding OS:
- Microsoft (R) Windows (R) XP Japanese edition
- Microsoft (R) Windows (R) 98 Japanese editions
- Microsoft (R) Windows (R) Me Japanese edition
- Microsoft (R) Windows (R) 2000Professional Japanese edition
- Corresponding personal computer:
The being less crowded PCI slot of one or more
* In the PCI bus of 3.3v specification it does not operate.
- CPU / clock:
* CPU / clock: Above Pentium II processor 300MHz (in case of WindowscXp above Pentium interchangeable CPU 500MHz)
(Or interchangeable processor *)
* In regard to the compatibility of the interchangeable processor itself it is unable to guarantee.
* Memory: Above 64m byte (recommendation above 128MB), in case of WindowscXp or more of 128m byte
* Necessity hard * disk being less crowded capacity: Or more of 120M byte
* Picture resolution / color number: 800×600 dot
/65,536 colors (High Color 16 bit) or more
* Operating condition Macintosh
- Corresponding OS: The after the MaccOs 8.6 * (recommendation the after the 9.0)
- Corresponding personal computer:
The being less crowded PCI slot of one or more
* In the PCI bus of 3.3v specification it does not operate.
- CPU / clock: Or more of PowercPc G3/300MHz
* Memory: Above 96m byte (or more of necessary) recommendation 128m byte above application memory 32m byte
* Necessity hard * disk being less crowded capacity: Or more of 120M byte
* Picture resolution / color number: Or more of 800×600 dot
[.]
http://www.roland.co.jp/products/dtm/DA-2496.html
http://www.roland.co.jp/cs/faq/DA-2496/index.html
Intéressant car contient le schéma électrique du DA-2496 ... ca permet de bien se rendre compte de ce qu'elle sait ou pas faire ...
traduction (approximative et en anglais) par Altavista/Systran:
[.] [EDIROL??????] [??????]
[.] [DA-2496] <http://babelfish.altavista.com/image/EDRicon_mac.gif> <http://babelfish.altavista.com/image/EDRicon_win.gif>
[.]
<http://babelfish.altavista.com/image/DA-2496/catch.gif>
<http://babelfish.altavista.com/image/DA-2496/DA-2496.jpg>
<http://babelfish.altavista.com/image/DA-2496/SET.jpg>
The DA-2496 is audio * interface of the 8IN/8OUT which corresponds to the 24-bit/96kHz which can be used with the DOS/V and the Macintosh which equip the PCI bus. It consists of the substance unit and the private coupling cable of the interface * card and 1u rack * mount * style of the PCI board. Maximum of 8 systems it takes in, input from various sources such as condenser & microphone and electricity * guitar to the personal computer simultaneously, it is possible to output to maximum of 8 systematic parallels in the external equipment. From real music production at the home, to the professional recording * studio, the solution of audio input/output is offered at the wide area.
[.]
<http://babelfish.altavista.com/image/DA-2496/1.gif>
It corresponds to the audio simultaneous input/output of channel 8. With the preponderant treble quality, 24-bit/96kHz, professional * quality - digital sound recording / playback is actualized. Sampling * rate corresponds to the 22.05.96kHz. Standard it equips also the MIDI input/output terminal and the word * clock input/output terminal.
<http://babelfish.altavista.com/image/DA-2496/2.gif>
In input, 2 systems of the ??? * jack of XLR balance and the TRS balance whose supply of ????? power source is possible, the high * impedance where you can connect to direct the guitar and the base (Hi-Z) the terminal 2 systematic equipment. Furthermore, the colorful input/output terminal which does not choose the connected equipment is equipped e.g., the digital input/output terminal (the ?????? / optical) it has.
[.]
<http://babelfish.altavista.com/image/DA-2496/3.gif>
As for digital * mixer of built-in, from control * panel of personal computer to direct control possibility. Mixing the audio * data in regard to input and the computer of channel 8, channel 2 it is possible to output.
In addition, real time * monitoring is actualized with the direct * monitoring function which does not mind the application on the computer.
<http://babelfish.altavista.com/image/DA-2496/4.gif>
The SONAR (the TM) and the like WDM corresponding application and the Cubase (the TM), the Logic (the TM) the ASIO which is begun (the TM) high performance is shown with corresponding application.
* The MME (the Windows (R)) and the Sound Manager (the Mac OS (R)) with corresponding application we do not correspond to multichannel.
<http://babelfish.altavista.com/image/DA-2496/diagram.gif>
[.]
[??????]
<http://babelfish.altavista.com/image/DA-2496/rear.jpg>
[????]
[.]
- Signal processing
AD conversion: 24 bits, 64 time over * sampling, channel 8
DA conversion: 24 bits, 128 time over * sampling, channel 8
- Sampling * rate
At the time of CLOCK SOURCE=INTERNAL: 22.05, 24, 32,44.1, 48, 88.2, 96kHz
At the time of CLOCK SOURCE=EXTERNAL: 32, 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96kHz
- Monitor & mixer
The number of input channels: 16, the number of output channels: 2
Fader -: -144. 0 dB
Operational precision: 36 bit
- Input:
Input 1,2: ????? power source equipped XLR, or standard TRS balance
Input 3,4: Standard TRS balance or standard Hi-Z
Imbalance
Input 5.8: Standard TRS balance
S/P DIF: ?????? and optical
Word * clock:
MIDI:
* As for S/P DIF input INPUT 7,8 to change
- Output:
OUTPUT1-8: Standard TRS balance
PHONES: Standard stereo
S/P DIF: ?????? and optical
Word * clock:
MIDI:
- Stipulated input level (variable)
Input 1.2 = -60. +4 dBu
Input 3.8 = -50. +4 dBu
- Stipulated output level
Output 1.8 = + 4dBu (at the time of balance)
- Input impedance
Input 1.8 (XLR and standard TRS): 20 K Omega
Input 3,4 (standard Hi-Z): 470k Omega
- Output impedance
Output 1.8: 300 Omega
- Recommendation load impedance
Output 1.8: 300 Omega: 10k Omega or more
Headphone: 20.600 Omega
- Connected terminal
Input * jack 1,2: XLR balance, ????? power source standard type and TRS balance
Input * jack 3,4: Standard type, TRS balance standard type and imbalance (GUITAR Hi-Z)
Input * jack 5.8: Standard type and TRS balance
Output * jack 1.8: Standard type and TRS balance
Headphone & jack: Stereo standard type
Digital * in * connector: ?????? * type and optical * type
Digital * out * connector: ?????? * type and optical * type
Word clock * in * jack: BNC type
Word clock * out * jack: BNC type
Private connector: 25 pins, D-sub type
- External size 482 (width) ×223 (depth) ×44 (height) mm
- Mass 2.65kg
- Accessory instruction manual, CD-ROM and interface * card (DA-PCI), interface * cable
[.] * Operating condition Windows
- Corresponding OS:
- Microsoft (R) Windows (R) XP Japanese edition
- Microsoft (R) Windows (R) 98 Japanese editions
- Microsoft (R) Windows (R) Me Japanese edition
- Microsoft (R) Windows (R) 2000Professional Japanese edition
- Corresponding personal computer:
The being less crowded PCI slot of one or more
* In the PCI bus of 3.3v specification it does not operate.
- CPU / clock:
* CPU / clock: Above Pentium II processor 300MHz (in case of WindowscXp above Pentium interchangeable CPU 500MHz)
(Or interchangeable processor *)
* In regard to the compatibility of the interchangeable processor itself it is unable to guarantee.
* Memory: Above 64m byte (recommendation above 128MB), in case of WindowscXp or more of 128m byte
* Necessity hard * disk being less crowded capacity: Or more of 120M byte
* Picture resolution / color number: 800×600 dot
/65,536 colors (High Color 16 bit) or more
* Operating condition Macintosh
- Corresponding OS: The after the MaccOs 8.6 * (recommendation the after the 9.0)
- Corresponding personal computer:
The being less crowded PCI slot of one or more
* In the PCI bus of 3.3v specification it does not operate.
- CPU / clock: Or more of PowercPc G3/300MHz
* Memory: Above 96m byte (or more of necessary) recommendation 128m byte above application memory 32m byte
* Necessity hard * disk being less crowded capacity: Or more of 120M byte
* Picture resolution / color number: Or more of 800×600 dot
[.]
Tilleul
23
Nouvel·le AFfilié·e
Membre depuis 22 ans
3 Posté le 03/11/2002 à 17:09:01
Limitations connues quant à WinXP (page en japonais, à faire traduire par Altavista)
http://www.roland.co.jp/cs/WinXP.html
sinon voici le diagramme du DA-2496
je suis pas expert mais ce que j'en comprends (et qui ne ressort pas dans les rares specs dispos sur le web):
In 7/8: jack ou s/pdif
le s/pdif out et les casques refletent d'office ce qui sort sur out 1/2
out 1/2 vient soit de in 1/2 soit du mixer interne
http://www.roland.co.jp/cs/WinXP.html
sinon voici le diagramme du DA-2496
je suis pas expert mais ce que j'en comprends (et qui ne ressort pas dans les rares specs dispos sur le web):
In 7/8: jack ou s/pdif
le s/pdif out et les casques refletent d'office ce qui sort sur out 1/2
out 1/2 vient soit de in 1/2 soit du mixer interne
Tilleul
23
Nouvel·le AFfilié·e
Membre depuis 22 ans
4 Posté le 10/11/2002 à 22:42:46
Un petit up pour re-demander plus d'info mais cette fois sur les drivers: qu'en est-il de la partie routage/mixing virtuel ? est ce aussi complet que celui d'une RME multiface par ex ?
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3632
Squatteur·euse d’AF
Membre depuis 21 ans
5 Posté le 28/02/2003 à 20:53:44
Salut tilleul
au niveau entrées-sorties, le parametrage est assez complet.. le routage s'effectue via un tableau interne ..
Oas de problms avec le cpu..
Par contre la gestion d'instuments virtuels via un claviers midi externe pose qqueq problems . il reste tjs un faible latence assez relou en enregistrement . pourtant, j'ai essyé 200 reglages possibles . pour infos, j'utilise edirol Hyper canvas et superquartet sous cubase SX.. le midi passe par la carte Edirol .
Le son est assez precis, mais regarde la Firestation de chez Presonus, ca a l'air plus serieux, au premier coup d'oeuil .
Badam
au niveau entrées-sorties, le parametrage est assez complet.. le routage s'effectue via un tableau interne ..
Oas de problms avec le cpu..
Par contre la gestion d'instuments virtuels via un claviers midi externe pose qqueq problems . il reste tjs un faible latence assez relou en enregistrement . pourtant, j'ai essyé 200 reglages possibles . pour infos, j'utilise edirol Hyper canvas et superquartet sous cubase SX.. le midi passe par la carte Edirol .
Le son est assez precis, mais regarde la Firestation de chez Presonus, ca a l'air plus serieux, au premier coup d'oeuil .
Badam
AB-
3632
Squatteur·euse d’AF
Membre depuis 21 ans
6 Posté le 28/02/2003 à 21:22:54
Mr tilleul . suite !
en baladant sur les forums, j'ai attrapé une info . il faudrait passer windows 2000 ou xp en "Pc standard" . ce qui pourrait apparament regler le probleme de latence dont je te parlait tantot ;
Jette s't un coup d'oeuil . je test ca et je t'en reparle .
https://www.espace-cubase.org/flmatosxp.htm
badam
en baladant sur les forums, j'ai attrapé une info . il faudrait passer windows 2000 ou xp en "Pc standard" . ce qui pourrait apparament regler le probleme de latence dont je te parlait tantot ;
Jette s't un coup d'oeuil . je test ca et je t'en reparle .
https://www.espace-cubase.org/flmatosxp.htm
badam
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