Votre avis sur engagement petit label !
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*Kurt Morrison*

C'est en anglais.
Qui aurait un peu de temps pour me dire ce qu'il en pense ?
J'ai pas envie de faire une co******

*Kurt Morrison*

Son mail suivi du contrat :
Citation : Kurt-
Here is the Final Agreement. Also, I like the Kurt Morrison font that you
sent me. We'll let our designer decide on it's use. Can you just send me the
Font only, without any effects?
Sign the agreement and include your legal name, address and telephone number.
Also, let me know if you want the advance sent by check or if you have a PayPal
account that you would like to use.
Citation : The following will confirm our agreement regarding the xxxxxxx project, a non-exclusive recording
service as an Artist and Composer for xxxxxxx
Master(s): Artist: Kurt Morrison
Title(s): 1. xxxxxx
2. xxxxxx
Release Date: April 2006, with an extension to the discretion of the Artist. Otherwise, this
agreement shall be null and void and compositions shall return to the Artist
Territory: Universe
Term: 5 years AND a one time use in the year 2014 for a special anniversary release
Configuration: All Known
Advance: The Company will advance to the Artist, as consideration for the Master(s),
$200.00 USD upon:
a) Completion of mastering; and
b) Signing of this agreement
Royalty: The royalty shall be based on 20.0% of the wholesale price on 90.0% of single
records sold. For compilations, an all in royalty rate of 10.0% will be used.
Advance and production costs shall be recoupable against any future royalties
owed
Licensing: Artist/Composer will receive 50.0% of any domestic or foreign third party
licensing advances or fees, net of legal fees and other transaction costs
associated
Deductions: 18.0% on CD and Vinyl for Container Costs
Promotion: 25.0% of all promotional costs are recoupable against artist/production royalties
Publishing: The Company will control and administer publishing in consideration of 50.0%
ownership of the publisher’s share
Copyrights: In consideration of the Advance received by Artist/Composer, Artist/Composer
hereby transfer to the Company, its affiliates and subsidiaries all right title and
interest in and to the copyright of the Master(s), which are the subject matter of
this agreement for their full term of copyright, in addition to the copyright in and to
the musical composition(s) embodied on such master. It remains the Company’s
responsibility to clear any samples with their respective publisher(s), which may
be contained in the compositions agreed to in this memorandum
Branding: All artwork related to the Artist’s image, project or any material related to the
Artist's work must be given approval and acceptance by the Artist before its
commercial use by the Company. All logos, images, and fonts used in connection
with the Artist will remain property of xxxxxxxx., except for any logos, images
and fonts created by the Artist, which shall remain property of the Artist
Accounting: Semi-annually
If the above terms are acceptable, please sign and date below and return to xxxxxxxx
xxxxx at the address or fax below. This Memorandum shall serve as the full understanding of our
agreement.
J'ai jamais vu un vrai contrat mais que faut-il attendre de plus pour un 2 titres chez un label ?
Et une precision, si remix il y a de mes morceaux (et remix il y aura), ça se fera sur les master donc je ne toucherai rien et eux par contre plein pot ?

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Citation : this agreement shall be null and void and compositions shall return to the Artist.
La composition, c'est l'oeuvre intellectuelle. Que fait-il du master, il le garde?Citation : Advance: The Company will advance to you, as consideration for the Master(s), $100.00 USD upon a) completion of mastering
Je pense que tu peux demander 100$ per track..Citation : production costs shall be recoupable against any future royalties owed.
L'ambiguité contrat de licence / work made for hire n'est toujours pas levée.De deux choses l'une: soit il finance le master (enregistrement, mixage), et il en est propriétaire. Soit il ne le finance pas et se contente de faire un mastering, auquel cas on est dans le cadre d'une licence et il n'a pas à te facturer les production costs.
Royalties, Licensing, Deductions: RAS
sauf:
Citation : For compilations, an all in royalty rate of 10.0% will be used.
Cet abattement n'a pas de raison d'etre. Soit c'est une compilation de son label, ça ne lui coute pas plus cher, et le calcul des redevances doit simplement s'effectuer prorata numeris. Soit il place ton titre sur une compilation d'un autre label, et c'est le paragraphe licensing qui s'applique.Citation : Promotion: 25.0% of all promotional costs are recoupable against artist/production royalties
Bof, bof.Citation : Copyrights: In consideration of the Advance received by Artist/Composer, Artist/Composer hereby transfer to the Company, its affiliates and subsidiaries all right title and interest in and to the copyright of the Master(s), which are the subject matter of this agreement for their full term of copyright, in addition to the copyright in and to the musical composition(s) embodied on such master
Ce ne sont pas les termes classiques d'un Grant of Rights de contrat de licence.Voici une formulation plus usuelle:
The Licensor hereby grants to the Licensee the exclusive right and license to use the Licensor's master recordings set forth in (paragraphe n°) and made a part hereof (hereinafter referred to as the "Masters" ) for the purpose of the manufacture, distribution, license and sale of records in all configurations of the title specified in (paragraphe n°) (the "Record(s)" ) for sale throughout the territory specified in (paragraphe n°) (the "Territory" ) during the period specified in (paragraphe n°) (the "Term" ).
Citation : It remains the Company’s responsibility to clear any samples with their respective publisher(s), which may be contained in the compositions agreed to.
Lui faire préciser qu'il est aussi responsable de la clearance pour l'utilisation du master. Par ailleurs, au regard de la release date: c'est tres rare qu'une autorisation pour un sample prenne moins de 3 mois...Citation : si tu as un litige avec eux, que vas-tu faire ?
Pour les litiges, la loi applicable au contrat doit etre définie au contrat. Idéalement, faire préciser qu'en cas de litige la loi applicable au contrat est la loi Française (je doute qu'il accepte). Par ailleurs un contrat rédigé en anglais est parfaitement valable.Citation : we cannot give you sole proprietorship to the images since the
company will sponsor the effort
Citation : Non normalement il a le droit de vendre pendant 5 ans + 6 mois en general , le temps d'ecouler les dernier stock, aprés ces 5 ans et 6 mois il doit detruire les copies restantes et te rendre les masters.
et il n'a plus le droit d'exploiter tes oeuvres.
Upon the expiration or termination of Term of this Agreement, Licensee shall have an additional six (6) month period in which to sell the existing stock of Records through any distribution outlets.
Bon en effet le contrat final n'est pas beaucoup plus explicite, ça reste juste un deal memo. cela dit peu importe sa forme ou sa taille, seul compte le contenu.
Citation : AND a one time use in the year 2014 for a special anniversary release
Tiens c'est nouveau, ça. Mais pourquoi pas, cela dit si on veut etre légaliste, il ya une contradiction avec le Terme (5 ans).La clause Branding me parait bien.
Pour les remix, la propriété en revient généralement au financeur. A lui donc, s'il paye les remixeurs. Il doit néanmoins te verser une royalty (minorée, généralement splitée 50/50 entre toi et le remixeur).
Voilà pour le juridique. Apres, il n'y a que toi qui puisse faire ta balance coût/avantage. Si le label est un peu respecté, ça vaut peut-etre le coup de laisser quelques plumes.
A moins d'avoir un vrai tube entre les mains, je n'y attacherais pas une importance démesurée.

*Kurt Morrison*


*Kurt Morrison*


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*Kurt Morrison*

Citation : PER OUR ATTORNEY, WE HAVE TO GO WITH THE INITIAL AGREEMENT. WE CANNOT NEGOTIATE
A LICENSE AGREEMENT SINCE YOU DO NOT OWN THE COPYRIGHT TO THE MATERIAL. YOU
HAVE USED A SAMPLE OF ANOTHER RECORDING AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO CLEAR IT BEFORE
LICENSING IT OUT TO US, WHICH WILL COST YOU TIME AND MONEY. SO, EITHER WE OWN
THE MASTER PER THE INITIAL AGREEMENT OR YOU CLEAR THE SAMPLES AND WE LICENSE IT
FROM YOU AFTERWARDS.
Citation : OF COURSE IT COSTS MORE TO PRODUCE A COMPILATION! PLEASE, DO YOUR RESEARCH
BEFORE SPENDING OUR TIME ON THIS. THE RATE STANDS AT 10%
Citation : I HOPE TO MAKE THE RECORD ALSO, BUT TO DO SO, YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE
MECHANICS OF THE INDUSTRY. THE REQUESTS YOU ARE MAKING ARE NOT TYPICAL AND
FURTHERMORE, YOU ARE NOT AN ARTIST WITH A SALES HISTORY. IF YOU HAD A PROVEN
TRACK RECORD, THEN MAYBE WE COULD SPEND MORE TIME REVISING THE AGREEMENT. WE
ARE TAKING A GAMBLE ON YOU, AND YOU ON US.
Visiblement il ne veut plus me proposer de licence temporaire...et veut revenir à l'accord du depart selon son avocat !!

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Citation : OF COURSE IT COSTS MORE TO PRODUCE A COMPILATION! PLEASE, DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE SPENDING OUR TIME ON THIS. THE RATE STANDS AT 10%
Ses coûts de production c'est son probleme, pas le tien. Sauf frais exceptionnels genre packaging luxueux etc qui justifie un abattement, ce qui n'est pas le cas d'une compil.Mon opinion, que j'avais déjà donné la derniere fois, c'est que:
Citation : Voilà pour le juridique. Apres, il n'y a que toi qui puisse faire ta balance coût/avantage. Si le label est un peu respecté, ça vaut peut-etre le coup de laisser quelques plumes.
A moins d'avoir un vrai tube entre les mains, je n'y attacherais pas une importance démesurée.
Comprendre: il a fait des concessions, c'est plus ou moins acceptable, pour un premier maxi ce qui compte c'est l'exposition qu'il va te donner.
Hors sujet : je t'ai envoyé un pm complementaire qui m'est revenu, as usual.

*Kurt Morrison*

Il a donc les droits sur les masters à vie.
Edit : sur les 2 morceaux choisis, l'histoire du sample n'en concerne qu'un.
Mais le contrat laisse entendre que celà est le cas pour les 2 morceaux. Peut-être puis-je demander une licence pour celui qui ne contient pas de samples...

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*Kurt Morrison*

Voici le mail que je lui ai envoyé il y a 5 minutes :
Citation : Hi XXXXX !
Well i'm sorry if you think it begins boring with me.
You were cool with me and i don't want to be in conflict with you.
About the 10% for compilation, it's not the same at all in France so sorry for this point, honestly.
I read the agreement again with my friend and we talked about it for a long time and we think it's ok.
In order to have no confusion, i send you the supposed final agreement.
But, one final point : what about remixes ? Do i have a percent on it ? Hope the answer is yes.
About radio broadcast ?
So could you add it on the agreement ?
Thank you XXXXXX.
Hope good news soon :-)
KM
Le contrat en question que je lui ai renvoyé est le dernier mis en ligne sur ce sujet mais avec le retour au terme perpetuel.
Me suis mal exprimé sur les royalties mais je pense qu'il comprendra de quoi je parle.

vincent 2.0


je suis content de ce qui t'arrive kurt,je reve de ça tous les jours...
j'espere que ça se passeras bien pour toi...


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*Kurt Morrison*

Citation : je suis content de ce qui t'arrive kurt,je reve de ça tous les jours...
j'espere que ça se passeras bien pour toi...
Merci à toi ! Oui moi aussi j'espere que ça se passera bien. Je vous tiens au courant de toute façon...

*Kurt Morrison*

J'ose esperer qu'il prend du temps pour réfléchir dans le bon sens...

vincent 2.0



*Kurt Morrison*


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*Kurt Morrison*

Donc voici son mail :
Citation : Kurt-
I'm glad we have reached an agreement. Attached is the FINAL contract. The
only change is the release date - from April it is now May, mainly because
of going back and forth with the changes.
To answer your questions:
"what about remixes ? Do i have a percent on it ? Hope the answer is yes."
KURT - YOU OWN 50% OF THE PUBLISHING. REMIXES JUST HELP SELL THE RECORD -
WE
DON'T GIVE SEPERATE ROYALTIES TO THE PEOPLE WHO DO THEM. THEY JUST RECEIVE
A
FLAT FEE. SO THE ANSWER IS 'YES' YOU DO RECEIVE A %
About radio broadcast ? YES - 50% OF PUBLISHING MEANS JUST THAT - ALL
ROYALTIES
AND DISTRIBUTIONS FROM RADIO BROADCAST, TV COMMERCIALS (IF ANY) AND
LICENSING.
So could you add it on the agreement ?
IT IS ALREADY IN THE AGREEMENT.
Please sign the agreement and send it, along with the master files, to the
address below.
Voici donc l'integralité du contrat final :
Citation : MULTI-SONG MEMORANDUM
The following will confirm our agreement regarding the XXXXX project, a non-exclusive recording
service as an Artist and Composer for XXXXXX
Master(s): Artist: Kurt Morrison
Title(s): 1. XXXXXXX
2. XXXXXXX
Release Date: May 2006, with an extension to the discretion of the Artist. Otherwise, this
agreement shall be null and void and compositions shall return to the Artist.
Territory: Universe
Term: Perpetual
Configuration: All Known
Advance: The Company will advance to you, as consideration for the Master(s), $200.00
USD upon a) completion of mastering; and b) signing of this agreement.
Advance and production costs shall be recoupable against any future royalties
owed.
Royalty: The royalty shall be based on 20.0% of the wholesale price on 90.0% of single
records sold. For compilations, an all in royalty rate of 10.0% will be used.
Licensing: Artist/Composer will receive 50.0% of any domestic or foreign third party
licensing advances or fees, net of legal fees and other transaction costs
associated.
Deductions: 18.0% on CD and Vinyl for Container Costs.
Promotion: 25.0% of all promotional costs are recoupable against artist/production royalties.
Publishing: The Company will control and administer publishing in consideration of 50.0%
ownership of the publisher’s share.
Copyrights: In consideration of the Advance received by Artist/Composer, Artist/Composer
hereby transfer to the Company, its affiliates and subsidiaries all right title and
interest in and to the copyright of the Master(s), which are the subject matter of
this agreement for their full term of copyright, in addition to the copyright in and to
the musical composition(s) embodied on such master. It remains the Company’s
responsibility to clear any samples with their respective publisher(s), which may
be contained in the compositions agreed to.
Branding: All artwork related to the Artist’s image, project or any material related to the
Artist's work must be given approval and acceptance by the Artist before its
commercial use by the Company. All logos, images, and fonts used in connection
with the Artist will remain property of XXXXX., except for any logos, images
and fonts created by the Artist, which shall remain property of the Artist.
Accounting: Semi-annually.
If the above terms are acceptable, please sign and date below and return to XXXXXXX at the address or fax below. This Memorandum shall serve as the full understanding of our
agreement.
Un dernier truc, a la fin du contrat, je mets quoi exactement là ? :
Citation : Agreed to and Accepted by:
Je signe avec mon nom d'artiste ? Avec mon vrai nom ? En précisant Kurt Morrison Alias XXXX ?
Et au champ Tax I.D. # , je rempli quoi ??

ratafiole

Pour les diffusions radios, il confirme qu'il prend bien 50% du publishing, ce qui n'est pas anormal.
Si le contrat te convient, tu le signes de ton vrai nom et de ton alias si tu veux. je ne vois pas où est le champ 'tax ID?'

*Kurt Morrison*

Voici ce que je dois remplir pour rendre le contrat valable :
Agreed to and Accepted by:
Legal Name:
Tax I.D. #
Date: January 31, 2006
Street:
City :
State/Province:
Zip/Postal Code:
Country:
Telephone:
D'un autre coté, il y a les coordonnées du responsable du label avec sa signature.

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Citation : An Employer Identification Number (EIN) is also known as a federal tax identification number, and is used to identify a business entity
http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0%2C%2Cid=98350%2C00.html

*Kurt Morrison*


Etant donné que les signatures sont reconnues comme valables sur le net, puis-je signer et scanner ce document en lui donnant un accès ftp pour ceux-ci et mes morceaux ou faut-il absolument les envoyer par la poste ?

ratafiole

Et s'il veut tout de suite lancer des remix etc, tu lui propose un dld par ftp.
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