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Sujet Duesenberg ?

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Sujet de la discussion Duesenberg ?
Salut salut, je voulais savoir ce que vous pensez des guitares Duesenberg...je n'en avait jamais entendu parlé avant d'aller sur Paris acheter ma nouvelle guitare (une Duesenberg Starplayer Tv) je l'ai eue d'occaz complètement nickel pour 1100Euros alors que j'aurais du débourser au alentours de 1500 euros pour une nouvelle...(je l'ai vue à Pigalle pour 1517..)

Enfin bon, bref moi j'en suis assez content elle à une assez bonne polyvalence avec un humbucker et un type p90 sur le manche, jazz, blues, le humbucker arrache assez pour faire du rock relativement hard.
J'attend vos avis avec impatience... :bravo:

Gratte Rulez da world
Le but de la vie est manqué.
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Ron Wood & Keith Richards:


et encore les Stones...







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Pour la petite histoire, les stones (k. richards) ont joué avec... et jouent toujours avec je suppose :clin:
c'est une marque allemande, le site officiel se trouve à cette adresse:
www.duesenberg.de

c'est tout ce que je sais à propos de cette gratte :clin:
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> Link

c'est celle là ?



ce serait sympa de déposer un avis sur le site d'ici qques temps :8)
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Despite a growing reputation in Europe and the USA, up until now the Duesenberg brand hasn't been available to UK players. But good ideas don't stay hidden for long and by a strange coincidence, the Gretsch brand that the Duesenberg is most similar to in terms of specification and style is currently residing in distributor limbo. So these smart German machines may have just got the foothold they need.

The Duesenberg brand first appeared in 1995 when boss Dieter Golsdorf, whose distribution company handles Kluson parts and spares among other things, decided to put his energies into a new line of guitars. With all that quality bits and pieces lying around, who can blame him? Seven years on and the unquestionably stylish range now includes both solid and hollow- body guitars, as well as electric basses. Their head-turning looks have caused quite a stir, even among world class players. Rolling Stone Ronnie Wood recently acquired a pearl mosaic topped signature model, which at £1,695 is currently the most expensive guitar in the Duesenberg range.

The bold fifties styling of Duesenberg guitars looks more like the product of some sun-baked American state than a German entrepreneur. But it's plain to see where the company has set its sights. As more and more guitar bands mould their sound and style on the tones of yesteryear, the gear they choose reflects this trend. We're seeing all sorts of weird and wonderful left field guitars on stages these days and although Italia, Epiphone and Squier's 24 Series provide good options for the lower and mid-range end of the market, there's hasn't really been a serious contender to fill the gap between these lower level instruments and the pricier USA-made Guild and Japanese Gretsch originals. In fact, with the whole Gretsch brand in limbo (see this month's Front End), these Duesenbergs might well echo the likes of Hofner and Framus, who people turned to in the fifties when USA guitars weren't imported because of a trade embargo

Starplayer TVOne of the most striking things about any Duesenberg guitar is the custom made parts. Homogenous plastic bits are two-a-penny these days and it's good to see someone doing something that little bit special. Duesenberg literally stamps its individuality on the guitar with thoughtfully designed, metal components. The branded shiny truss rod cover, for example, is both attractive and functional. The fifties automotive theme continues with chromed trim along the edge of the art deco scratchplate and a sturdy metal jack socket surround, leaving you in no doubt as to the thought and care that goes into these instruments. Even the control knobs and pickup selector knob are custom items comprising a pair of sparkle topped knobs with jewel indicators for the single volume and tone controls and a chromed, stepped pickup selector knob.

Staying with the Starplayer TV's hardware for a moment, the 'stairstep' Kluson tuners have got to be the ultimate in retro-style tuning; a perfect combination of form and function. Duesenberg's flying 'D' decal stylistically punctuates the space of the top shoulder and is thoughtfully angled so as to be level when the guitar is in the playing position. Lastly Duesenberg's very own (Bigsby-style) Tremola vibrato unit completes the hardware line-up with a unique shock -mounted retainer to keep the arm nicely out of harm's way when you fancy a gentle wiggle.

Beneath a fairly thick polyester finish lies a neck that feels a lot like Gibson's classic ES335 profile: shallow enough for easy chording yet with enough substance to aid sustain and tone. Getting to grips with it reveals that the Starplayer doesn't quite live up to its name despite the 'rolled edge' binding and good upper fret access. The problem is one of string tension - it's a little too stiff, making bends really quite difficult. The Starplayer only really came into its own when we experimented with open tunings, slide styles and various picking techniques. With heavier-handed rhythm playing, the extra fight imparted by the Tremola actually contributes to a good, tight sound. You could say that these are the kind of musical styles the Duesenberg is aimed at though, and if that's the case it certainly hits the mark.
Some top quality fret installation on the tidy rosewood fingerboard and good general fit and finish make for a comfortable enough playing experience despite the stiff feel. But if you really want to extract more performance from the Starplayer and don't mind giving up the wang bar for a while, the Tremola unit is designed with a combined rollerbar/tailpiece. String up the guitar from here and it bypasses the vibrato, leaving the Starplayer handling a lot better for wide bends and vibrato. The improved playability is awesome and it's nice to be given the option. In either case string installation is a breeze, requiring only threading through rather than the fiddly ball-end pins found on some vintage vibratos. Suddenly you're holding a very playable sort of thinline Les Paul with great on-strap balance.

Sounds
If you work within the restrictions of the slightly stiff feel and bang out some raucous Jon Spencer Blues Explosion-style chords, the Starplayer TV, with its wonderful zingy hollow-body sound, responds like a guitar in its element. We were particularly impressed with the full-bodied and wood-rich tone of the neck P90-style unit. Duesenberg makes this alnico magnet pickup in-house and employs open nickel silver covers for a unique look. The sound is really meaty, yet at the same time sports the authentic clarity and punch of a P90 pickup - excellent with a dash of overdrive. For slide duties this pickup offers instant Delta tones. We couldn't get over how brilliant even the most basic of slide playing sounds on the Starplayer. Most impressive.

The bridge humbucker is a good contrast to the bassy neck unit, with a more focused, powerful and altogether chunkier sound: a good combination of thick bass, raunchy mid-range and singing trebles. With both pickups selected the sound is a little more scooped, but is far from jangly - more beefy really. In this position only half of the bridge humbucker is selected, making for a sound which retains the fatness of both pickups and presenting a united front of thick, wholesome tone.

Part Gibson Les Paul, part Gretsch, the Starplayer's sound is captivating and addictive from clean to drive and is even more exciting when played in anger. The vibrato system feels good and works well within its limitations. Provided you remember not to use it too violently it stays in tune well too.
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Merci beaucoup pour toutes ces images Lost :bravo: Oui je pense bien que c'est celle-là sauf que la mienne est toute noire et que la tige de vibrato est moins grosse (c'est un bigsby mais c'est celui du modèle Ron Wood) pour la petit histoire le type qui avait acheté ma gratte avait fait importé la tige de vibrato d'un autre modèle et le cache noir spécialement d'allemagne. je te mettrai l'image cet aprèm :clin: et si j'ai le temps ce soir, je déposerai mon avis sur le site :lol:

Gratte Rulez da world
Le but de la vie est manqué.
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Euh... c'était pas Lost mais Talou :lol: (pas de prob)


Merci pour ton futur avis sur le site (ça m'intéresse :clin: )

Sinon elle ressemble bien à celle de droite sur la photo (sauf que la tienne est noire :clin: )
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Nop c'est pas celle-là finalement Talou, jviens de regarder plus attentivement et celle sur la photo c'est la carl carlton...(ya le tit CC sur la droite en-dessous des potentiomètres)la mienne a de moins grandes dimensions...j'aurais eu trop de mal à bouger sur scène avec une grosse comme ça...
Euh tu peux aller voir https://fr.audiofanzine.com/membres/index,idmembre,35489.html c'est celle-là la mienne à moi :) et faut encore que je finisse ma liste de matos :8)

Gratte Rulez da world
Le but de la vie est manqué.
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Au fait ça donne quoi comme sons la duesenberg Link?
je connais la marque mais j'ai jamais entendu... j'aimerais en savoir plus...
c'est plutôt son gros et gras style Gibson LP ou plutôt sons clairs genre Fender?
En tout cas, félicitations Link, elle est vachement belle ta gratte :clin: petit veinard va! :mdr:
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Je te parlerai plus sérieusement du son dans une semaine, j'ai pas encore le temps d'essayer toutes ses possibilités...Jte dirai ce qu'elle a dans le ventre quand j'aurai essayé le humbucker avec une bonne disto(mon ampli berhinger a une disto de pute...)et je vais demain chez un pote qui a un bon ampli blues-rock(un vieux roland blues je sais plus quoi)
Pour l'instant je n'ai pu expérimenter sérieusement que le micro manche qui offre de très belles textures jazz.
Pour ce qui est du son en général je dirais qu'il est assez caractéristique, du fait de sa demi-caisse le son est assez typé accoustique. La guitare n'est pas limitée dans un genre du fait de l'éléctronique complète(un p90 en manche et un humbucker en chevalet)
Les duesenberg n'ont pas le claquant des fender's ni leur brillant mais elles se débrouillent bien dans les registres clairs(je suppose que je pourrais plus en parler quand j'aurai expérimenté la position intermédiaire).
Voila ce que je peux te dire du son des duesenberg...Je mettrai mon avis sur le site dans quelques temps :clin:
En tout cas j'en suis très content pour l'instant!!

Gratte Rulez da world
Le but de la vie est manqué.