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Banshee in Avalon
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Sujet de la discussion Posté le 04/07/2017 à 18:00:53Mixbus 4 à moitié prix
Harrison Consoles offre sa STAN Mixbus v4 à moitié prix dans le cadre de sa promo estivale.
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sub26nico
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11 Posté le 12/07/2017 à 21:02:42
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12 Posté le 12/07/2017 à 22:17:48
ardour a beaucoup changé c'est certain mais j'aimerais qu'on ait un pack plus complet si on pouvait à terme se passer de produits proprios je serais le premier ravi
sub26nico
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13 Posté le 12/07/2017 à 23:01:15
En ce qui me concerne, pour de l'audio, hormis pour le time-strechting/pitch-shifting,
je trouve que le couple Ardour/Mixbus est satisfaisant.
Il y a peut être mieux, notamment dans l'édition, mais j'arrive à bosser avec
(je vais vérifier ce problème d'automation qui est, je te l'accorde, vraiment problématique)
et pour le mix, Mixbus est vraiment terrible, une ergonomie que j'apprécie et des outils
à portée de main sans ouvrir de fenêtre et qui sonne très bien (Eqs, Comps, Drive et Limiter).
Pour le midi, je suis moins fan, je préfère Reaper (dont la version linux avance très rapidement,
plus que l'elastic pro 3 et le support LV2 à intégrer, mais la pré-version actuelle est déjà super).
Pour des musiques basées sur des boucles, c'est pas l'outil idéal, mais ça reste possible
même si ça reste à des années lumières d'Ableton Live/Bitwig.
Mais ce n'est pas l'objectif des devs non plus.
Après, à chacun ses préférences..
je trouve que le couple Ardour/Mixbus est satisfaisant.
Il y a peut être mieux, notamment dans l'édition, mais j'arrive à bosser avec
(je vais vérifier ce problème d'automation qui est, je te l'accorde, vraiment problématique)
et pour le mix, Mixbus est vraiment terrible, une ergonomie que j'apprécie et des outils
à portée de main sans ouvrir de fenêtre et qui sonne très bien (Eqs, Comps, Drive et Limiter).
Pour le midi, je suis moins fan, je préfère Reaper (dont la version linux avance très rapidement,
plus que l'elastic pro 3 et le support LV2 à intégrer, mais la pré-version actuelle est déjà super).
Pour des musiques basées sur des boucles, c'est pas l'outil idéal, mais ça reste possible
même si ça reste à des années lumières d'Ableton Live/Bitwig.
Mais ce n'est pas l'objectif des devs non plus.
Après, à chacun ses préférences..
Anonyme
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14 Posté le 19/07/2017 à 22:15:35
honnetement win10 est TRES stable au point que je largue meme mac os X
je ne vois plus l'interet d'un linux, d'autant que win10 est impeccable et qu'on a ts les instrus et plugins pro sur win et aussi ardour et mixbus
je ne vois plus l'interet d'un linux, d'autant que win10 est impeccable et qu'on a ts les instrus et plugins pro sur win et aussi ardour et mixbus
LD55
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15 Posté le 20/07/2017 à 23:43:16
On va pas lancer un troll Windows vs Linux Pascal. J'utilise Linux, point barre, peu importe les raisons.
Sinon comme pour démentir mon agacement d'il ya quelques jours, il ya de l'activité sur le github d'Ardour avec pas mal de commits venant d'autres gens que Robin Gareus, dont pas mal de Ben Loftis.
Ceci dit pas mal semblent concerner l'editor summary qui ne me dérangeait pas plus que ça tel qu'il était, et de nombreux problèmes toujours en "ToDo list" seront encore présents. Mais c'est toujours ça de pris et ça laisse entrvoir un Mixbus 4.1 pour dans pas trop longtemps.
Sinon comme pour démentir mon agacement d'il ya quelques jours, il ya de l'activité sur le github d'Ardour avec pas mal de commits venant d'autres gens que Robin Gareus, dont pas mal de Ben Loftis.
Ceci dit pas mal semblent concerner l'editor summary qui ne me dérangeait pas plus que ça tel qu'il était, et de nombreux problèmes toujours en "ToDo list" seront encore présents. Mais c'est toujours ça de pris et ça laisse entrvoir un Mixbus 4.1 pour dans pas trop longtemps.
LD55
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16 Posté le 29/07/2017 à 04:31:53
Voilà, la 4.1 c'est pour les jours qui viennent.
Spoiler - Cliquer ici pour lire la suite
Changes introduced in v4.1.579
New Features:
Allow automation of VCA faders ( see video )
Template Manger ( contributed by open-source developer Johannes Mueller )
Import & Export your Session templates & Track templates
Makes it easier for users to share session & track templates without manually managing the files
You'll find this new feature in "Window->Templates"
Improvements:
Add 176.4kHz rate to export dialog.
Enable the Non-layered button work for MIDI recording. When a new MIDI region is recorded, it will trim the underlying regions so there is nothing below the new region.
Allow listening to master output during realtime export.
Allow selection of automation lanes, so you can paste into them.
Various improvements to "touch" automation.
Various improvements to zooming & scrolling in the editor:
Editor Zooming: make it harder for user to step into ridiculous zoom-out scales.
Improvements to the "Summary" at the bottom of the editor.
The "Summary" now operates more like a horizontal conventional scrollbar.
"Summary" now only slides the editor canvas left/right, not up&down.
Click, then drag up & down in the summary to zoom.
Scroll-wheel in the summary will zoom (and it's faster than dragging up/down)
When instantiation a Track from a "template", use the template name for the new track; not the name of the original track used to created the template.
When plugins are copy/pasted or drag&dropped from one channel to another, retain their order.
Make VCA mute+solo buttons bindable to midi controllers.
Further speed-up the rendering of waveforms by using multiple drawing threads.
When creating a snapshot, a copy of every MIDI source file should be created (so a destructive change in one MIDI file doesn't propagate into other snapshots)
Prevent the storage of redundant Fader+Trim Automation in session files (reduces size of session files)
Don't de-select tracks when the track order changes.
The option for adding "at the top", in the Add Track/Bus dialog, didn't work. This has been fixed.
Fixed a bug with external sync which sometimes caused the playhead to jump back & forth between 2 different positions.
Fix fader level operation when channels are grouped together AND attached to a VCA.
Allow the New Track dialog to stay open after you add a track, so you can add more tracks & templates.
Make Import the default action in the Import Dialog (Double clicking on a file or pressing the Return key will now import it, instead of auditioning it). You can still manually audition the file with space as before.
Cut buffer must not mess around with the selection. Fixes range mode selection/cut/copy that would previously clear track selection.
If actively recording, prevent interaction between mouse and audio clock widget(s) which could stop recording with an accidental locate.
Support note-name editing in midi list editor
Loading a read-only Session, then making a copy with Save As and switch was not allowing the new Session to be saved, as writable state was not updated. This has been fixed.
Right-click on marker, "loop range" was not setting the loop range. This has been fixed.
Monitor-section state (show/hide, attached/detached) was not recalled after close/re-open. This has been fixed.
Limit clock displays to 30 days (720 hours).
When in smart-mode, don't switch to range-mode after "set range selection".
Updated German, Russian, Japanese, Chinese, and Czech translations
Tempo mapping improvements:
Allow tap with keyboard (Space, Enter)
Various fixes to grids, copy/paste & clocks to accommodate tempo changes in the tempo map.
Rework tempo marker editing menu functions
Setting a tempo to 'Continue' via right click puts it in a permanent state of continuing the previous section's end tempo. Adjusting the tempo line will adjust this marker's tempo -and- the end tempo of the previous marker.
Control Surfaces:
Many, many improvements to OSC remote-control protocol ( contributed by Len Ovens )
Watch for some cool new tablet control options coming soon!
Allow control-surfaces to enable the EQ/Comp when a knob is moved. (in-on-change)
Set Display Name for OSX/macOS (fixes EuCon surfaces on OSX 11, 12)
MIDI learn on ctrl + middle-click only (not ctrl + other mods + btn2).
Allow scripts and surfaces to change a route's Color
Midi map for Alesis QX25 (Len Ovens)
Re-introduce toggle-editor-and-mixer (for ctrl-surfaces)
Note: This currently only toggles "tabs" correctly, not floating windows
Mackie MCU protocol improvements:
Fix issue with strip "select" buttons that stayed stuck on.
More tweaks to make the EQ layout match v3. (32C)
Restore missing filter controls to the Dyn page (32C)
Assign some F-keys for default user profile.
Momentarily light F-key buttons when they are used to trigger a defined action.
If a F-key is not assigned an action, it will not light, indicating to the user that it is unmapped.
Faderport8 improvements:
Allow launching current plugin GUI from controller.
Expose plugin presets to the FP8
Allow linking controls (GUI focus to FP8 encoder)
Allow user to customize scribble strip display modes
Use separate bank offsets per MixMode
Channel-navigation/scroll select track on encoder press.
FP8: snap-to scroll tracks, both editor+mixer.
Fixes:
Fix metronome + capture alignment for Mixbus.
The master-limiter offset was not being latency-compensated. This has been fixed.
When separating a region, the region gain line was not always preserved correctly in the newly-created regions. This has been fixed.
Mixbuses 9-12 would not allow you to drag&drop the inline EQ and compressor. This has been fixed. ( 32C only )
Mixbuses 912 did not implement "spill" correctly. This has been fixed. ( 32C only )
Fix gain up/down (keyboard arrow up/down) in the mixer window. When tracks were in a group, the gain would be applied multiple times. This has been fixed.
Fix crash when renaming track to an invalid name.
Fixed a crash when rapidly switching snapshots.
Fixed a crash when using Undo from a control surface.
Fixed a crash caused by deletion of VCA with slaved controls.
Fixed a crash with VST plugins (Softube, maybe others) that use long text for parameter names.
VST plugin fix: Don't use VST ->user pointer, prefer host-reserved ptr. Apparently "user" is for plugins (not hosts) to use. Probably will avoid a few crashes with VST plugins.
Fixes for bundled plugins from the Ardour community:
a-Inline-spectrogram: fix display bug when shown in both editor-mixer-strip + mixer
a-Comp: Increase range of release time
a-EQ: Tweak knob layout to be less confusing
a-EQ: DSP bugfix: fix audio glitches when the bandwidth parameter was adjusted
MacOS Fixes:
Fixed glitches in editor drawing when in fullscreen mode: sometimes regions would not update without a zoom or scroll operation to trigger a re-draw. This has been fixed.
Windows Fixes:
Some 32bit .wav files from Zoom recorders (and maybe other sources) would not import succesfully. This has been fixed.
New Features:
Allow automation of VCA faders ( see video )
Template Manger ( contributed by open-source developer Johannes Mueller )
Import & Export your Session templates & Track templates
Makes it easier for users to share session & track templates without manually managing the files
You'll find this new feature in "Window->Templates"
Improvements:
Add 176.4kHz rate to export dialog.
Enable the Non-layered button work for MIDI recording. When a new MIDI region is recorded, it will trim the underlying regions so there is nothing below the new region.
Allow listening to master output during realtime export.
Allow selection of automation lanes, so you can paste into them.
Various improvements to "touch" automation.
Various improvements to zooming & scrolling in the editor:
Editor Zooming: make it harder for user to step into ridiculous zoom-out scales.
Improvements to the "Summary" at the bottom of the editor.
The "Summary" now operates more like a horizontal conventional scrollbar.
"Summary" now only slides the editor canvas left/right, not up&down.
Click, then drag up & down in the summary to zoom.
Scroll-wheel in the summary will zoom (and it's faster than dragging up/down)
When instantiation a Track from a "template", use the template name for the new track; not the name of the original track used to created the template.
When plugins are copy/pasted or drag&dropped from one channel to another, retain their order.
Make VCA mute+solo buttons bindable to midi controllers.
Further speed-up the rendering of waveforms by using multiple drawing threads.
When creating a snapshot, a copy of every MIDI source file should be created (so a destructive change in one MIDI file doesn't propagate into other snapshots)
Prevent the storage of redundant Fader+Trim Automation in session files (reduces size of session files)
Don't de-select tracks when the track order changes.
The option for adding "at the top", in the Add Track/Bus dialog, didn't work. This has been fixed.
Fixed a bug with external sync which sometimes caused the playhead to jump back & forth between 2 different positions.
Fix fader level operation when channels are grouped together AND attached to a VCA.
Allow the New Track dialog to stay open after you add a track, so you can add more tracks & templates.
Make Import the default action in the Import Dialog (Double clicking on a file or pressing the Return key will now import it, instead of auditioning it). You can still manually audition the file with space as before.
Cut buffer must not mess around with the selection. Fixes range mode selection/cut/copy that would previously clear track selection.
If actively recording, prevent interaction between mouse and audio clock widget(s) which could stop recording with an accidental locate.
Support note-name editing in midi list editor
Loading a read-only Session, then making a copy with Save As and switch was not allowing the new Session to be saved, as writable state was not updated. This has been fixed.
Right-click on marker, "loop range" was not setting the loop range. This has been fixed.
Monitor-section state (show/hide, attached/detached) was not recalled after close/re-open. This has been fixed.
Limit clock displays to 30 days (720 hours).
When in smart-mode, don't switch to range-mode after "set range selection".
Updated German, Russian, Japanese, Chinese, and Czech translations
Tempo mapping improvements:
Allow tap with keyboard (Space, Enter)
Various fixes to grids, copy/paste & clocks to accommodate tempo changes in the tempo map.
Rework tempo marker editing menu functions
Setting a tempo to 'Continue' via right click puts it in a permanent state of continuing the previous section's end tempo. Adjusting the tempo line will adjust this marker's tempo -and- the end tempo of the previous marker.
Control Surfaces:
Many, many improvements to OSC remote-control protocol ( contributed by Len Ovens )
Watch for some cool new tablet control options coming soon!
Allow control-surfaces to enable the EQ/Comp when a knob is moved. (in-on-change)
Set Display Name for OSX/macOS (fixes EuCon surfaces on OSX 11, 12)
MIDI learn on ctrl + middle-click only (not ctrl + other mods + btn2).
Allow scripts and surfaces to change a route's Color
Midi map for Alesis QX25 (Len Ovens)
Re-introduce toggle-editor-and-mixer (for ctrl-surfaces)
Note: This currently only toggles "tabs" correctly, not floating windows
Mackie MCU protocol improvements:
Fix issue with strip "select" buttons that stayed stuck on.
More tweaks to make the EQ layout match v3. (32C)
Restore missing filter controls to the Dyn page (32C)
Assign some F-keys for default user profile.
Momentarily light F-key buttons when they are used to trigger a defined action.
If a F-key is not assigned an action, it will not light, indicating to the user that it is unmapped.
Faderport8 improvements:
Allow launching current plugin GUI from controller.
Expose plugin presets to the FP8
Allow linking controls (GUI focus to FP8 encoder)
Allow user to customize scribble strip display modes
Use separate bank offsets per MixMode
Channel-navigation/scroll select track on encoder press.
FP8: snap-to scroll tracks, both editor+mixer.
Fixes:
Fix metronome + capture alignment for Mixbus.
The master-limiter offset was not being latency-compensated. This has been fixed.
When separating a region, the region gain line was not always preserved correctly in the newly-created regions. This has been fixed.
Mixbuses 9-12 would not allow you to drag&drop the inline EQ and compressor. This has been fixed. ( 32C only )
Mixbuses 912 did not implement "spill" correctly. This has been fixed. ( 32C only )
Fix gain up/down (keyboard arrow up/down) in the mixer window. When tracks were in a group, the gain would be applied multiple times. This has been fixed.
Fix crash when renaming track to an invalid name.
Fixed a crash when rapidly switching snapshots.
Fixed a crash when using Undo from a control surface.
Fixed a crash caused by deletion of VCA with slaved controls.
Fixed a crash with VST plugins (Softube, maybe others) that use long text for parameter names.
VST plugin fix: Don't use VST ->user pointer, prefer host-reserved ptr. Apparently "user" is for plugins (not hosts) to use. Probably will avoid a few crashes with VST plugins.
Fixes for bundled plugins from the Ardour community:
a-Inline-spectrogram: fix display bug when shown in both editor-mixer-strip + mixer
a-Comp: Increase range of release time
a-EQ: Tweak knob layout to be less confusing
a-EQ: DSP bugfix: fix audio glitches when the bandwidth parameter was adjusted
MacOS Fixes:
Fixed glitches in editor drawing when in fullscreen mode: sometimes regions would not update without a zoom or scroll operation to trigger a re-draw. This has been fixed.
Windows Fixes:
Some 32bit .wav files from Zoom recorders (and maybe other sources) would not import succesfully. This has been fixed.
LD55
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17 Posté le 29/07/2017 à 13:53:27
Ils m'ont filé la beta normalement reservée aux "plugged-in members" (que je ne suis plus), parce que je lui ai signalé un bug avant-hier. Plutôt cool de leur part. Après un test rapide ce matin, effectivement les problèmes qui m'agacaient ces derniers temps semblent tous résolus.
Dans la vidéo qui annonce la 4.1 il a un plugin XTGGM, je pense donc qu'un nouveau plugin va sortir en même temps que la 4.1 lundi.
Edit, bon ben pas de plugin semble t-il...
Dans la vidéo qui annonce la 4.1 il a un plugin XTGGM, je pense donc qu'un nouveau plugin va sortir en même temps que la 4.1 lundi.
Edit, bon ben pas de plugin semble t-il...
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Anonyme
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18 Posté le 02/08/2017 à 12:31:27
Mixbus 4.1 pour 39 euros y a pas à réfléchir à mon avis.
[ Dernière édition du message le 02/08/2017 à 21:30:23 ]
sub26nico
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19 Posté le 02/08/2017 à 19:13:54
Sympa les automations des VCAs ainsi que les correctifs de bugs.
Sur OSX, je n'arrive pas à ouvrir un ancien projet, sinon ça roule.
RAS sous GNU/Linux, aucun souci.
Sur OSX, je n'arrive pas à ouvrir un ancien projet, sinon ça roule.
RAS sous GNU/Linux, aucun souci.
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Hors sujet :Quant à Linux,en réponse à jazzride67, ces disputes existent bel et bien mais
ne concernent pas tout le monde, ni la majorité.
Et je trouve ça plutôt une bonne chose d'avoir le choix des distributions ou des bureaux,
même si ça rend les choses obscures pour un débutants.
Mais il existe des distros adaptées aux débutants (Ubuntu notamment) et pour la Mao,
j'en vois 3 qui sont opérationnelles (UbuntuStudio, LibraZiK et KXStudio).
Il n'y a plus besoin de compiler grand chose sauf besoin ponctuel, les applis principales
sont dans les dépôts de la plupart des distros.
Encore une fois, chacun ses goûts. Et il y en a pour tout le monde
Anonyme
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20 Posté le 11/08/2017 à 02:02:34
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Hors sujet :Linux est un OS remarquable mais il y a encore trop de scories (trop de distributions redondantes + une partie de la communauté qui lui porte tort et que personnellement je ne supporte pas et que je n'ai jamais pu supporter. Il faut entrer dans la période de la maturité et de la normalité-normalisation. De toute façon le débat Linux contre les grandes méchantes multinationales est ridicule et ne correspond pas du tout à la réalité de la vie de cet OS, développé grace aux apports de cies comme IBM Microsoft et autres. cf consortium Linux.) Linux en MAO est un très bon choix :OS d'une stabilité remarquable mais il faut savoir qu’on se prive de quantités de softs hards et plugins, c'est un choix à faire en connaissance de cause.
Ce qu'on gagne d'un coté on le perd de l'autre.
[ Dernière édition du message le 11/08/2017 à 02:06:10 ]
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