Commentaires sur le test : Test du synthétiseur Novation Summit
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synthwalker
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Sujet de la discussion Posté le 04/02/2020 à 17:33:04Commentaires sur le test : Test du synthétiseur Novation Summit
Au Superbooth 2019, Novation avait dévoilé le Summit, un puissant synthé polyphonique hybride, regroupant deux modules Peak dans un grand clavier couvert de commandes. Huit mois plus tard, le sommet est enfin accessible. On grimpe !
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Nostromoripley
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361 Posté le 06/12/2022 à 18:38:33
Citation de Gam :
Au cas ou vérifie si t'as pas un setting dans fx routing, fx source foireux dans du layer A, comme aux ou external
Tous les routing sont ok, c'est comme si le FxA etait bloqué sur OFF au lieu d'etre sur SYNTH dans le FX ROUTING
Les gars de chez NOVATION ont jamais vu ça lol je leur ai envoyé une video, ils comprennent pas. J'attends de leur nouvelles apparemment ils ont transmis le PB a un des responsable du soft...j'attends.
pour ceux que ça interesse voici le PB : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cVcp-3IePrv0wnleItACCiJp9bqmdfSH/view?usp=share_link
Qu'importe les moyens, seul le résultat compte
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marzacdev
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362 Posté le 07/12/2022 à 09:10:50
Ça sent un problème de soudure ma foix ...
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saltmilk
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363 Posté le 07/12/2022 à 09:59:39
J'ai testé de mon côté... pas ce souci.
C'est le moment de te faire un loto, Nostromoripley !!
C'est le moment de te faire un loto, Nostromoripley !!
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364 Posté le 07/12/2022 à 11:38:36
C'est rare, mais oui peut être un soucis hardware
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365 Posté le 07/12/2022 à 23:46:42
Citation de Gam :
C'est rare, mais oui peut être un soucis hardware
Dans son cas, c'est possible. Je n'ai pas connaissance du schéma de la bête mais comme c'est une machine hybride, pour appliquer des effets numériques, il faut à un endroit de la carte que le signal analogique soit numérisé...
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366 Posté le 10/12/2022 à 17:36:00
Citation de iktomi :
Gam, je crois que tu as répondu à l'impression de manque de basses du Summit pour alcools par des vidéos du Peak
Après, c'est vrai qu'il est difficile de savoir si tu colle se manque uniquement sur le Summit ou le Peak aussi alcools dans ton discours. Tu dis revenir sur le Peak pour une certaine polyvalence, mais tu ne parle pas de cet accès au basses.
Non, je ne suis pas revenu au Peak pour sa polyvalence, mais pour sa couleur sonore particulière.
Et niveau basses, il y a assez peu de différences entre Peak et Summit, même si le Summit permet de booster un peu certaines fréquences basses avec son 2eme filtre ou bien sûr de créer des sons à 2 couches mais là c'est de la triche. Je reste toujours sur la réserve au niveau des basses sur ces 2 machines mais c'est surement une affaire de gout et de définition des basses. Moi je pense à des basses qui cognent avec une attaque rapide, et sur les vidéos de Gam les attaques ne sont pas franchement claquantes. En revanche, il est facile de faire des basses profondes et/ou crades avec le Peak mais ça n'a pas le punch d'un Prophet 6 ou d'un Virus. En tous cas, j'arrive à mes fins beaucoup plus facilement avec ces 2 dernières machines question basses punchy.
Nord Stage 3 - Virus Ti2 desktop - Pioneer Toraiz AS-1 - Nord Modular G2 desktop - Eventide H9
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367 Posté le 10/12/2022 à 18:31:45
Utilise le lfo 1 ou 2 en mode enveloppe sur le filtre pour des basse plus rapide, ou des pluck, key sync rend aussi les basses plus percussive avec une forte resonnance
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Nostromoripley
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368 Posté le 12/12/2022 à 13:28:20
Citation de Gam :
C'est rare, mais oui peut être un soucis hardware
Novation n'a pas résolu le probleme, il s'agirait pour eux (et a mon avis aussi) d'une panne hardware, donc retour chez fournisseur.
Qu'importe les moyens, seul le résultat compte
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369 Posté le 11/08/2023 à 20:51:11
New In V2.2
Peak:
In the rare event front panel controls become responsive after completing this update it will be necessary to restart your unit.
* Local state is now stored in the global settings. If Local is saved to ‘Off’ a temporary display will show on boot. Settings must be saved in order to be retained through a power cycle (go the Settings menu and press Save)
* All local modes can be set by sending the following values on CC122. A temporary display will be shown when the local state is changed via MIDI:
0 = off
127 = on
* Bug fixes:
* Sudden changes in stereo position - fixed an issue where certain combinations of Spread, SpreadMode and PanPosn settings could result in sudden changes to the distribution of voices in the stereo field.
* Poly mode voice management - Previously when using 8 voice unison with long envelope times in Poly mode all 8 voices may not be triggered when playing in legato style. All 8 voices are now triggered whenever a new key is pressed. This fix does not apply to Poly2 mode.
* Hanging notes - Playing greater than 8 notes after the unit has booted can no longer result in a hanging note.
* Reverb Size not recalled correctly when loading a patch - Reverb Size front panel control and Reverb Size menu parameter (FX 8/10) now work bi-directionally and settings are recalled correctly.
* All sounds off/all notes off - Peak now responds to both CC120 & CC123 according to the MIDI org specs. CC120 (all sounds off) cancels all notes and shuts down envelopes & FX – settings are restored with the next note. CC123 (all notes off) cancels any active notes.
* LFO FadeSync - LFO FadeSync now works in both Mono & Poly voice modes. This feature determines whether fade is applied to an LFO, when set to ‘On’ the fade value will be applied to with each keypress in legato playing style. When set to ‘Off’ the fade will be applied with the first key press in legato playing style.
* Mixed displays when moving multiple controls - Revisions have been made to the screen display prioritisation to prevent mixed/garbled displays appearing on screen.
* Screen doesn’t wake from a USD MIDI event - Fixed an issue when the screen would not wake when receiving a USB MIDI event.
* Ignores LSB in CC pairs - LSB is no longer ignored, this reduces stepping when controlling Peak via external MIDI
* Notes held in Arp cache when Arp is off - In previous builds if Arp was disabled while notes were being held, the notes would be cached causing the same arpeggiated sequence to play when Arp is enabled again. The Arp note cache is now cleared when Arp is disabled.
Summit:
* Local state is now stored in the global settings. If Local is saved to ‘Off’ a temporary display will show on boot. Settings must be saved in order to be retained through a power cycle (go to the Settings menu and press Save)
* All local modes can be set by sending the following values on CC122. A temporary display will be shown when the local state is changed via MIDI:
0 = off
64 = seq
127 = on
* Pressing both Octave buttons resets the octave range - As with other Novation synths, pressing Octave +/- will reset any octave shift applied to the keys through the Octave buttons.
* Bug fixes:
* Sudden changes in stereo position - fixed an issue where certain combinations of Spread, SpreadMode and PanPosn settings could result in sudden changes to the distribution of voices in the stereo field.
* Animates not available in Local | Seq - Both animate buttons now work in Single & Multi mode when local mode is set to Seq.
* Oscillator Diverge & Drift in multi-patches - These settings now work on a per-part basis.
* Switching to Multi Mode via MIDI - NRPN 62:0:1 to global MIDI channel now switches to Multi. NRPN 62:0:0 to either part A or part B MIDI channel switches to Single.
* LFOs on both parts of a multi adapt to tempo changes - Previously LFOs on a multi only updated to tempo changes if part B was selected. This is now fixed.
* LFO Common - LFO common is now working uniformly across voices 1-8 & 9-16 and can be used on a per-part basis in multi-patches.
* Reverb Size not recalled correctly when loading a patch - Reverb Size front panel control and Reverb Size menu parameter (FX 8/10) now work bi-directionally and settings are recalled correctly.
* All sounds off/all notes off - Summit now responds to both CC120 & CC123 according to the MIDI org specs. CC120 (all sounds off) cancels all notes and shuts down envelopes & FX – settings are restored with the next note. CC123 (all notes off) cancels any active notes.
* LFO FadeSync - LFO FadeSync now works in both Mono & Poly voice modes. This feature determines whether fade is applied to an LFO, when set to ‘On’ the fade value will be applied to each keypress in legato playing style. When set to ‘Off’ the fade will be applied with the first key press in legato playing style.
* Mixed displays when moving multiple controls - Revisions have been made to the screen display prioritisation to prevent mixed/garbled displays from appearing on screen.
* Screen doesn’t wake from a USD MIDI event - Fixed an issue when the screen would not wake when receiving a USB MIDI event.
* Ignores LSB in CC pairs - LSB is no longer ignored, this reduces stepping when controlling Summit via external MIDI
* Notes held in Arp cache when Arp is off - In previous builds if Arp was disabled while notes were being held, the notes would be cached causing the same arpeggiated sequence to play when Arp is enabled again. The Arp note cache is now cleared when Arp is disabled.
* Arp to MIDI behaviour has been changed. Please see this page for more information:
https://support.novationmusic.com/.../arti.../13001787498898
* Octave values show as -64 in some multi-patches - Per part octave displacement values shown multi patch page 4/4 now display correctly.
* Pressing ‘Compare’ while Part B is selected changes Part selection to Part A - Updated part selection and Multi-mode state are now retained when using ‘Compare’.
* LFO 3 & 4 values differ between voices 1-8 & 9-16 - LFO 3 & 4 are now uniform across all voices.
* Activating Arp on a multi patch will cancel latched notes on the other part when using MIDI loopback - Latched notes are now retained in this circumstance.
* ‘saved val’ display flickers between Part A & Part B when using multi control - Screen will show the saved value on Part A and Part as ‘saved ptA’ & ‘saved ptB’ when Parts A & B are selected.
* Octave buttons don’t respond when local is off - Octave buttons now adjust to the octave range of the MIDI output when local is off.
* Part A/B categories update correctly - Category fields now show correctly in multi-patches.
* LFO LEDs updating when using Phase Sync on multi patches - LED displays in this circumstance have been improved and reflect the per-part LFO settings.
Peak:
In the rare event front panel controls become responsive after completing this update it will be necessary to restart your unit.
* Local state is now stored in the global settings. If Local is saved to ‘Off’ a temporary display will show on boot. Settings must be saved in order to be retained through a power cycle (go the Settings menu and press Save)
* All local modes can be set by sending the following values on CC122. A temporary display will be shown when the local state is changed via MIDI:
0 = off
127 = on
* Bug fixes:
* Sudden changes in stereo position - fixed an issue where certain combinations of Spread, SpreadMode and PanPosn settings could result in sudden changes to the distribution of voices in the stereo field.
* Poly mode voice management - Previously when using 8 voice unison with long envelope times in Poly mode all 8 voices may not be triggered when playing in legato style. All 8 voices are now triggered whenever a new key is pressed. This fix does not apply to Poly2 mode.
* Hanging notes - Playing greater than 8 notes after the unit has booted can no longer result in a hanging note.
* Reverb Size not recalled correctly when loading a patch - Reverb Size front panel control and Reverb Size menu parameter (FX 8/10) now work bi-directionally and settings are recalled correctly.
* All sounds off/all notes off - Peak now responds to both CC120 & CC123 according to the MIDI org specs. CC120 (all sounds off) cancels all notes and shuts down envelopes & FX – settings are restored with the next note. CC123 (all notes off) cancels any active notes.
* LFO FadeSync - LFO FadeSync now works in both Mono & Poly voice modes. This feature determines whether fade is applied to an LFO, when set to ‘On’ the fade value will be applied to with each keypress in legato playing style. When set to ‘Off’ the fade will be applied with the first key press in legato playing style.
* Mixed displays when moving multiple controls - Revisions have been made to the screen display prioritisation to prevent mixed/garbled displays appearing on screen.
* Screen doesn’t wake from a USD MIDI event - Fixed an issue when the screen would not wake when receiving a USB MIDI event.
* Ignores LSB in CC pairs - LSB is no longer ignored, this reduces stepping when controlling Peak via external MIDI
* Notes held in Arp cache when Arp is off - In previous builds if Arp was disabled while notes were being held, the notes would be cached causing the same arpeggiated sequence to play when Arp is enabled again. The Arp note cache is now cleared when Arp is disabled.
Summit:
* Local state is now stored in the global settings. If Local is saved to ‘Off’ a temporary display will show on boot. Settings must be saved in order to be retained through a power cycle (go to the Settings menu and press Save)
* All local modes can be set by sending the following values on CC122. A temporary display will be shown when the local state is changed via MIDI:
0 = off
64 = seq
127 = on
* Pressing both Octave buttons resets the octave range - As with other Novation synths, pressing Octave +/- will reset any octave shift applied to the keys through the Octave buttons.
* Bug fixes:
* Sudden changes in stereo position - fixed an issue where certain combinations of Spread, SpreadMode and PanPosn settings could result in sudden changes to the distribution of voices in the stereo field.
* Animates not available in Local | Seq - Both animate buttons now work in Single & Multi mode when local mode is set to Seq.
* Oscillator Diverge & Drift in multi-patches - These settings now work on a per-part basis.
* Switching to Multi Mode via MIDI - NRPN 62:0:1 to global MIDI channel now switches to Multi. NRPN 62:0:0 to either part A or part B MIDI channel switches to Single.
* LFOs on both parts of a multi adapt to tempo changes - Previously LFOs on a multi only updated to tempo changes if part B was selected. This is now fixed.
* LFO Common - LFO common is now working uniformly across voices 1-8 & 9-16 and can be used on a per-part basis in multi-patches.
* Reverb Size not recalled correctly when loading a patch - Reverb Size front panel control and Reverb Size menu parameter (FX 8/10) now work bi-directionally and settings are recalled correctly.
* All sounds off/all notes off - Summit now responds to both CC120 & CC123 according to the MIDI org specs. CC120 (all sounds off) cancels all notes and shuts down envelopes & FX – settings are restored with the next note. CC123 (all notes off) cancels any active notes.
* LFO FadeSync - LFO FadeSync now works in both Mono & Poly voice modes. This feature determines whether fade is applied to an LFO, when set to ‘On’ the fade value will be applied to each keypress in legato playing style. When set to ‘Off’ the fade will be applied with the first key press in legato playing style.
* Mixed displays when moving multiple controls - Revisions have been made to the screen display prioritisation to prevent mixed/garbled displays from appearing on screen.
* Screen doesn’t wake from a USD MIDI event - Fixed an issue when the screen would not wake when receiving a USB MIDI event.
* Ignores LSB in CC pairs - LSB is no longer ignored, this reduces stepping when controlling Summit via external MIDI
* Notes held in Arp cache when Arp is off - In previous builds if Arp was disabled while notes were being held, the notes would be cached causing the same arpeggiated sequence to play when Arp is enabled again. The Arp note cache is now cleared when Arp is disabled.
* Arp to MIDI behaviour has been changed. Please see this page for more information:
https://support.novationmusic.com/.../arti.../13001787498898
* Octave values show as -64 in some multi-patches - Per part octave displacement values shown multi patch page 4/4 now display correctly.
* Pressing ‘Compare’ while Part B is selected changes Part selection to Part A - Updated part selection and Multi-mode state are now retained when using ‘Compare’.
* LFO 3 & 4 values differ between voices 1-8 & 9-16 - LFO 3 & 4 are now uniform across all voices.
* Activating Arp on a multi patch will cancel latched notes on the other part when using MIDI loopback - Latched notes are now retained in this circumstance.
* ‘saved val’ display flickers between Part A & Part B when using multi control - Screen will show the saved value on Part A and Part as ‘saved ptA’ & ‘saved ptB’ when Parts A & B are selected.
* Octave buttons don’t respond when local is off - Octave buttons now adjust to the octave range of the MIDI output when local is off.
* Part A/B categories update correctly - Category fields now show correctly in multi-patches.
* LFO LEDs updating when using Phase Sync on multi patches - LED displays in this circumstance have been improved and reflect the per-part LFO settings.
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370 Posté le 22/08/2023 à 17:07:34
Salut,
J'avais remonté un bug confirmé par Novation.
Quand je jouais en mode dual avec un mon Keystep qui jouais une séquence sur une partie et un solo sur mon Summit, sur une autre partie, les notes s'annulaient.
"Activating Arp on a multi patch will cancel latched notes on the other part when using MIDI loopback - Latched notes are now retained in this circumstance." cela règle le problème ? Je n'ai pas la possibilité de tester !
J'avais remonté un bug confirmé par Novation.
Quand je jouais en mode dual avec un mon Keystep qui jouais une séquence sur une partie et un solo sur mon Summit, sur une autre partie, les notes s'annulaient.
"Activating Arp on a multi patch will cancel latched notes on the other part when using MIDI loopback - Latched notes are now retained in this circumstance." cela règle le problème ? Je n'ai pas la possibilité de tester !
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