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Korg Nautilus 88

Workstation de la marque Korg appartenant à la série Nautilus

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réactions à la news Korg Nautilus, la nouvelle workstation fera-t-elle oublier le Kronos ?

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Sujet de la discussion Korg Nautilus, la nouvelle workstation fera-t-elle oublier le Kronos ?
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Korg dévoile aujourd’hui sa nouvelle workstation et synthé Nautilus, que vous pouvez choisir en trois formats de 61, 73 et 88 touches.


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Citation de pinceloupgeoffroy[newline :
L'absence d'aftertouch:
un contrôleur d'expression type expressive E Touch, remplacera largement l'aftertouch.


Donc toi tu ne joue que d'une main sur un clavier 7 octaves ?

Citation de coyote14 :
@ pinceloupgeoffroy: tu as le droit de pas être d'accord, mais avant de prendre les autres de haut, essaie déjà de pas te prendre les pieds dans le tapis. Le simple fait que tu indiques qu'on peut mettre 8 ou 16Go de RAM sur un OS qui tourne en 32 bits montre que tu ne sais absolument pas de quoi tu parles (un OS 32 bits ne peut exploiter, au mieux, que 3,2Go environ). C'est pas grave, mais au moins, ne fanfaronne pas...

Je ne parle même pas de l'aftertouch, d'autres sont passés avant moi.


Non, il est tout a fait possible d'adresser plus de 4Go de ram sur un IOs 32 bits, comme Linux et Physical Address Extension

[ Dernière édition du message le 14/03/2021 à 20:57:54 ]

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Ben pas sur un Kronos ou un Nautilus en tous cas.
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Hello, un membre du forum gearslutz "SonicBern" a posté cette comparaison sur la base du 73 notes.

NAUTILUS v KRONOS main differences. I will use N and K as abbreviations. Most duplication has been left out, these are not the full spec lists:

N 73 key: Natural Touch Semi Weighted, C - C
K 73 key: RH3 (Real Weighted Hammer Action 3)

N after touch is not supported on all three key type models
K after touch is supported on all three key type models

Tone Generator

N Preset PCM - RAM 496 MB / DISK 2.3G (ROM 1,771 Multisamples, 3,955 Drumsamples)
K Preset PCM - 314 MB (ROM 1,505 Multisamples, 1,388 Drumsamples)

N Build-in Expansion PCM Libraries
EXs301: German2 D Piano
EXs302: Italian F Piano
EXs303: Japanese Upright U Piano
EXs304: Prepared Piano
EXs305: Historical Keyboards
EXs306: Vintage Keyboards 2
EXs307: Strings & Synths
EXs308: Guitar Collection
EXs309: Bass Collection
EXs310: World Essence
EXs311: Background Loops
EXs312: SFX & Hits
EXs313: Found Percussions
EXs314: Expansion Drums

K Build-in Expansion PCM Libraries
EXs1 - ROM Expansion
EXs2 - Concert Grand Piano
EXs3 - Brass & Woodwinds
EXs4 - Vintage Keyboards
EXs5 - ROM Expansion 2
EXs6 - SGX-1 German D Piano
EXs7 - SGX-1 Japanese C Piano
EXs8 - Rock Ambience Drums
EXs9 - Jazz Ambience Drums
EXs17 – SGX-2 Berlin D Piano
EXs18 – KORG EXs Collections

N Wave Sequences
598 User memory, 377 Preload
K Wave Sequences
598 User memory, 187 Preload

SGX-2 Program

N PCM
EXs301 – German2 D Piano 12 velocity levels, includes Ambience Piano type/samples
EXs302 – Italian F Piano 12 velocity levels, no Una Corda samples
EXs303 – Japanese Upright U Piano 8 velocity levels
Exs304 – Prepared Piano 1-4 velocity levels

K PCM
EXs6?SGX-1 German D Piano
EXs7?SGX-1 Japanese C Piano
EXs12?SGX-1 Austrian D Piano (Option Sound libraries) 8 velocity levels, no Una Corda samples
EXs17?Berlin D Piano 12 velocity levels, includes Una Corda samples

N Piano Type 128 (With the factory settings, the 64 varieties of EXs6: German D Piano, EXs7: Japanese C Piano, EXs12: SGX-1 Austrian D Piano, EXs17: Berlin D Piano do not produce sound. The options must be downloaded. (Those will be released at a later date.))

K Piano Type 64 (With the factory settings, the 16 varieties of EXs12 SGX-1 Austrian D Piano do not produce sound. The EXs12 option must be downloaded.)

EP-1 Program

N Electric Piano Model Types 7 Tine EP I Early
K Electric Piano Model Types 6

HD-1 Program
EXi Program Common
AL-1 Program
CX-3 Program
STR-1 Program

Were all the same

MOD-7 Program

N Noise Generator (With saturation and low-pass filter function)
K ??? Not in the spec list

MS-20EX Program
PolysixEX Program
Combination

Were all the same

Drumkit - Number of Programs/Combinations/Drum kits

N User Memory Programs 2,560 (1,920 [1,280 HD-1+640 EXi] come preloaded)
User Memory Combinations 1,792 (256 come preloaded)
User Memory Drum Kits 264 (104 come preloaded)

K User Memory Programs 2,560 (1,792 [896 HD-1+896 EXi] come preloaded)
User Memory Combinations 1,792 (512 come preloaded)
User Memory Drum Kits 264 (78 come preloaded)

Set List

The same

Sampling

N No Ripping Direct sampling (ripping) from audio CD (CD-DA)
K Yes Ripping Direct sampling (ripping) from audio CD (CD-DA)

Effects

The same

Arpeggiator

N Arpeggiator Modules - One module in Program mode, two modules in Combination and Sequencer modes
Arpeggio Pattern - 5 presets + ARP A 2,048 slots (1,593 come Preload) + ARP B 128 slots
Controllers - On/Off, Latch, Gate, Velocity, Length, Swing, Tempo

K No Arpeggiator

KARMA

N No KARMA

K KARMA Modules - One module in Program mode, four modules in Combination and Sequencer modes
Generated Effects (GE) - 2,048 presets, 1,536 Users (96 come Preload)
Controllers - On/Off, Latch, Chord, Assign, Module, Control, KARMA Realtime Control Sliders [1] – [8], KARMA Scene [1] – [8], KARMA Switches [1] – [8], KARMA Wave-Sequencing, GE Sub Category, Freeze Randomize, Time Signature Control, Tempo Synchronize, Auto RTC (Real Time Control) setup

Drum Track

N Preset Patterns - 1,272 (common with the preset patterns of the MIDI sequencer)
Trigger Mode/ Sync / Zone / Swing, Drum SD, Tempo settings can be specified

K Prest Patterns - 718 (common with the preset patterns of the MIDI sequencer)
Trigger Mode/Sync/Zone settings can be specified

Sequencer / HDR

N MIDI Tracks 697 preset / 100 user patterns (per song)
K MIDI Tracks 718 preset / 100 user patterns (per song)

N Audio Tracks Maximum Single-file Recording Time (mono): 80 minutes
Automation: Volume, Pan, EQ, and Send1/2
10,000 regions (max.)
Event Anchors, BPM Adjust

K Audio Tracks - Not spec'd here. Likely same or similar

General

N Disk Mode - Load, save, utility, data filer function (save/load MIDI System Exclusive data), CD-R/RW (UDF format read/write), ISO9660 Level 1.

K Disk Mode - Load, save, utility, audio CD burning, audio CD playback, data filer function (save/load MIDI System Exclusive data), CD-R/RW (UDF format read/write), ISO9660 Level 1.

N Controllers - Joystick, Switches 1 & 2
Arpeggiator Control: On/Off, Latch, Gate, Velocity, Length, Swing, Tempo
DRUM TRACK: On/Off, Swing, Drum SD, Tempo

K Controllers - Vector joystick, joystick, ribbon controller, switches 1 & 2
Control Surface:
Control Assign Switches:
Assigns the Control Surface to Timber/Track, Audio, External, Realtime Knobs/KARMA,
Tone Adjust/EQ
Mixer Knobs Switch:
Assigns the Mixer Knobs to either Channel Strip or Individual Pan, Reset Control Switch, Solo Switch, Knobs 1-8, Switches 1-8(Upper Row), Switches 1-8 (Lower Row), Sliders 1-8, Master Slider
KARMA Control:
On/Off, Latch, Module Control
DRUM TRACK:
On/Off

N Display - TouchView graphical user interface, 7 inch color TFT, WVGA (800 x 480 dots), adjustable brightness

Same or similar spec to the Krome. By removing the lower tabs used in the Kronos display it allows a smaller screen. Reviewers say it needs a couple of extra button presses to replace what that extra visually confusing Kronos tab layer achieved

K Display - TouchView graphical user interface, 8 inch color TFT, SVGA (800 x 600 dots), adjustable brightness

Outputs

K has the following extra:
== Digital == S/P DIF Optical, 24-bit, IEC60958, EIAJCP-1201, Sample Rate: 48 kHz, (the same signals as L/MONO, R)
Digital output of the same signals as AUDIO OUTPUT (MAIN) L/MONO and R

Inputs

N Audio Inputs 1 and 2
1/4” TRS Balanced
Input Impedance: 10 k?
Nominal Level: LINE +4 dBu
Maximum Level: LINE +16 dBu
Nominal Level: MIC –22 dBu
Maximum Level: MIC -10 dBu
Source Impedance: 600 ?

The Kronos has external switches and pots for these inputs. On Nautilus they are driven by menu items

K Audio Inputs 1 and 2:
1/4” TRS Balanced
MIC/LINE input level switches, LEVEL knobs
Input Impedance: 10 k?
Nominal Level: LINE
+4 dBu (LEVEL knob = min), –36 dBu (LEVEL knob = max)
Nominal Level: MIC
–22 dBu (LEVEL knob = min), –62 dBu (LEVEL knob = max)
Maximum Level: LINE
+16 dBu (LEVEL knob = min), –24 dBu (LEVEL knob = max)
Maximum Level: MIC
-10 dBu (LEVEL knob = min), –50 dBu (LEVEL knob = max)
Source Impedance: 600 ?

== Digital == S/P DIF Optical, 24-bit, IEC60958, EIAJCP-1201, Sample Rate: 48 kHz

N USB A (TYPE A) x 1, For connection to external USB devices (QWERTY keyboards, MIDI controllers, ethernet adaptors, and storage)

K USB A (TYPE A) x 2, For connection to external USB devices (QWERTY keyboards, MIDI controllers, ethernet adaptors, and storage)

N Power Consumption 40 W

K Power Consumption 60 W

N Dimensions: (W x D x H)
61 key: 1,062 x 386 x 116 mm / 41.81” x 15.20” x 4.57”
73 key: 1,227 x 386 x 116 mm / 48.31” x 15.20” x 4.57”
88 key: 1,437 x 387 x 139 mm / 56.57” x 15.24” x 5.47”

K Dimensions: (W x D x H)
61 key: 1,040 x 364 x 134 mm / 40.94” x 14.33” x 5.28”
73 key: 1,221 x 371 x 148 mm / 48.07” x 14.61” x 5.83”
88 key: 1,443 x 371 x 148 mm / 56.42” x 14.61” x 5.83”

N Weight
61 key: 13.0 kg / 28.66 lbs.
73 key: 14.6 kg / 32.19 lbs.
88 key: 23.1 kg / 50.93 lbs.

K Weight
61 key: 14.3 kg / 31.53 lbs.
73 key: 21.1 kg / 46.52 lbs.
88 key: 24.1 kg / 53.13 lbs.

N Accessories AC cord, Quick Start Guide

K Accessories AC cord, Quick Start Guide, Accessory DVD Discs 1-3 (DVDs include KRONOS Operation Guide, Parameter Guide, and Voice Name List PDF files; Video Manual; KORG USB-MIDI Driver; System Restore Data, etc.)

Principal Specifications

Frequency Response etc all the same

So under the hood, things like polyphony are the same per engine. The NAUTILUS has just got more Waves etc and some has been changed to suit the likely buyer, more modern

As the review videos mentioned, the NAUTILUS is quite sturdy and the weight is not far of the KRONOS

Hopefully the NAUTILUS Key Bed is a traditional hinged type...
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Bonjour,
à priori, il n'y a donc aucun espoir de pouvoir récupérer les combis d'un Kronos 2 ou LS dans le Nautilus ?

www.allrythmics.com

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Bonjour,

Désolé si l'info a déjà été donnée dans ce fil, bien que l'ayant déjà lu, j'avoue que je n'ai pas eu le courage de tout relire.
Dans cette vidéo : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaLtrDzckmc, à 14:06, Michel Deutsch précise que d'une part on ne pourra pas rajouter un second SSD dans le Nautilus et d'autre part le SSD est flashé sur la carte. Ce qui signifie a priori qu'on ne pourra pas non plus installer un SSD plus volumineux.
146
Bonjour , question aux utilisateurs , le Nautilus est-il totalement silencieux à l'usage ?
Il a un ventilateur qui se met en route au démarrage puis s'arrête complétement après le boot , "apparemment " , j'aimerais confirmation , merci .
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Comportement classique d'un ventilateur qui s'initialise au boot, puis reste immobile (ou en rotation lente inaudible) tant qu'un seuil de température n'est pas atteint.
A confirmer par des possesseurs de ce clavier-là, mais personnellement, rien ne me choque ici.
148
Merci pour la réponse , j'accorde de l'importance à ce critère parce que je travaille avec des machines sans ventilateur (ordi , enregistreur , Synthés) et comme le Nautilus m'intéresse , je me posais la question .
D'autres réponses ?
149
Il ne semble pas susciter beaucoup d'intérêt ce clavier, est-ce à cause de son prix, le kronos semble avoir quelques beaux jours devant lui ???
150
Effectivement du mal a se positionner dans la série .
En exagérant 1000 euros de trop je pense .
Il sera peut être bradé...

[ Dernière édition du message le 17/07/2021 à 13:58:50 ]