Hand-hammering and re-creating cymbals
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Johan VDS
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Posteur·euse AFfranchi·e
Membre depuis 19 ans
Sujet de la discussion Posté le 23/05/2006 à 18:45:17Hand-hammering and re-creating cymbals
Hello !
Sorry for writing in English but my French is terrible. I understand it a bit but I can't write it.
I am a Belgian drummer from Bruges who also hammers cymbals.
I once started hammering cymbals because (to me) no modern factory made cymbal has the "old Turkish K Zildjian" kind of darkness and complexity anymore.
I hammer pro- and also some non-pro-level factory cymbals into much richer sounding cymbals.
Besides creating light complex jazz cymbals, I also hammer heavier rock-oriented cymbals to dramatically enrich the sound.
The cymbals I've hammered can be seen and heard on this INDEX PAGE. Mind you, I have hammered most of these cymbals to suit my personal taste (dark and trashy) but I can also brighten the sound of cymbals with a different hammering method.
Some "before and after modification" files can be heard HERE.
Some student cymbals I hammered into professional cymbals can be listened to HERE.
Here are some pictures (the soundfiles can be found on the site).
This was a Paiste Signature Power ride, hammered to sound like the old 60's Tony Williams ride, but a little heavier:

This was a Zildjian ZBT 20" ride, now a very complex thin professional jazz ride.
This was once a Paiste 2002 22" ride:

Here's a "before and after" pic of a cheap 16" Headliner crash cymbal, now a professional dark thin crash:

Sorry for writing in English but my French is terrible. I understand it a bit but I can't write it.
I am a Belgian drummer from Bruges who also hammers cymbals.
I once started hammering cymbals because (to me) no modern factory made cymbal has the "old Turkish K Zildjian" kind of darkness and complexity anymore.
I hammer pro- and also some non-pro-level factory cymbals into much richer sounding cymbals.
Besides creating light complex jazz cymbals, I also hammer heavier rock-oriented cymbals to dramatically enrich the sound.
The cymbals I've hammered can be seen and heard on this INDEX PAGE. Mind you, I have hammered most of these cymbals to suit my personal taste (dark and trashy) but I can also brighten the sound of cymbals with a different hammering method.
Some "before and after modification" files can be heard HERE.
Some student cymbals I hammered into professional cymbals can be listened to HERE.
Here are some pictures (the soundfiles can be found on the site).
This was a Paiste Signature Power ride, hammered to sound like the old 60's Tony Williams ride, but a little heavier:

This was a Zildjian ZBT 20" ride, now a very complex thin professional jazz ride.

This was once a Paiste 2002 22" ride:

Here's a "before and after" pic of a cheap 16" Headliner crash cymbal, now a professional dark thin crash:

See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals

Lapin
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Squatteur·euse d’AF
Membre depuis 22 ans
91 Posté le 30/11/2006 à 15:34:10
Oui, moi je situerais ça entre une swish et une thin dark crash gros diamètre.
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[jj]
5917

Je poste, donc je suis
Membre depuis 21 ans
92 Posté le 30/11/2006 à 15:47:26
ça doit être un peu déstabilisant franchement au début ! surtout si tu alterne ton jeu sur plusieurs cymbales, des modèles bien solides et que hop tu passes la dessus... 

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Johan VDS
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Posteur·euse AFfranchi·e
Membre depuis 19 ans
93 Posté le 03/12/2006 à 14:34:40
20" Complex Ride 2215 grams -from Sabian AA
SOUNDFILE

SOUNDFILE

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See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals

pearlman.mmx
22

Nouvel·le AFfilié·e
Membre depuis 18 ans
94 Posté le 04/12/2006 à 01:31:39
...Mais pourquoi on cherche à pêter les oreilles des autres musiciens? Vous n'avez même pas l'idée du boucan d'enfer qu'elles produisent!
Si c'est pour du plaisir
...alors faites vous plaisir, mais quand on joue avec d'autres musiciens on a l'interêt à ne pas les couvrir (surtout dans un petit local...là où joue la plupart des musiciens!).
Si c'est pour du plaisir

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Lapin
3516

Squatteur·euse d’AF
Membre depuis 22 ans
95 Posté le 04/12/2006 à 09:26:55
Tu réponds à qui là?
Quoi qui produit un boucan d'enfer?

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Johan VDS
60

Posteur·euse AFfranchi·e
Membre depuis 19 ans
96 Posté le 08/12/2006 à 15:04:32
Here's a Tony Williams-style 22" Complex "Nefertiti" Ride weighing 2425 grams.
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SOUNDFILE

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Johan VDS
60

Posteur·euse AFfranchi·e
Membre depuis 19 ans
97 Posté le 21/12/2006 à 21:57:46
Here's a 20" Light Complex Bright ride 1740 grams, hammered from a Ufip.
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And an 18" Dark Crash, hammered from a Sabian AA El Sabor.
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And an 18" Dark Crash, hammered from a Sabian AA El Sabor.
SOUNDCLIP

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See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals

Johan VDS
60

Posteur·euse AFfranchi·e
Membre depuis 19 ans
98 Posté le 10/01/2007 à 10:42:56
There are some new creations on my new website.
Some of them are:
A 7" Splash, hammered from a B20 bronze disc.
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A 14" China.
SOUNDFILE
A 15" Dark Thin Crash.
SOUNDFILE
An 18" Dark Crashride.
SOUNDFILE

Some of them are:
A 7" Splash, hammered from a B20 bronze disc.
SOUNDFILE

A 14" China.
SOUNDFILE

A 15" Dark Thin Crash.
SOUNDFILE

An 18" Dark Crashride.
SOUNDFILE

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See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals

Johan VDS
60

Posteur·euse AFfranchi·e
Membre depuis 19 ans
99 Posté le 22/01/2007 à 20:08:15
20" Light Trashy Ride, 1715 grams:
SOUNDFILE
17" Dark Fast Crash, 1070 grams :
SOUNDFILE
20" Complex Ride 1900 grams:
SOUNDFILE

17" Dark Crash (works as a light ride too) 1265 grams:
SOUNDFILE

SOUNDFILE

17" Dark Fast Crash, 1070 grams :
SOUNDFILE

20" Complex Ride 1900 grams:
SOUNDFILE

17" Dark Crash (works as a light ride too) 1265 grams:
SOUNDFILE

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See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals

pistonpistache
17989

Modérateur·trice thématique
Membre depuis 22 ans
100 Posté le 22/01/2007 à 20:39:13
Johan-> a partir de quelles cymbales tu as travaillé pour
17" Dark Fast Crash, 1070 grams
et
A 15" Dark Thin Crash.
D'ailleurs la plupart de tes anciens fichiers ont disparus
17" Dark Fast Crash, 1070 grams

et
A 15" Dark Thin Crash.

D'ailleurs la plupart de tes anciens fichiers ont disparus

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