Hand-hammering and re-creating cymbals
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Johan VDS
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Sujet de la discussion Posté le 23/05/2006 à 18:45:17Hand-hammering and re-creating cymbals
Hello !
Sorry for writing in English but my French is terrible. I understand it a bit but I can't write it.
I am a Belgian drummer from Bruges who also hammers cymbals.
I once started hammering cymbals because (to me) no modern factory made cymbal has the "old Turkish K Zildjian" kind of darkness and complexity anymore.
I hammer pro- and also some non-pro-level factory cymbals into much richer sounding cymbals.
Besides creating light complex jazz cymbals, I also hammer heavier rock-oriented cymbals to dramatically enrich the sound.
The cymbals I've hammered can be seen and heard on this INDEX PAGE. Mind you, I have hammered most of these cymbals to suit my personal taste (dark and trashy) but I can also brighten the sound of cymbals with a different hammering method.
Some "before and after modification" files can be heard HERE.
Some student cymbals I hammered into professional cymbals can be listened to HERE.
Here are some pictures (the soundfiles can be found on the site).
This was a Paiste Signature Power ride, hammered to sound like the old 60's Tony Williams ride, but a little heavier:
This was a Zildjian ZBT 20" ride, now a very complex thin professional jazz ride.
This was once a Paiste 2002 22" ride:
Here's a "before and after" pic of a cheap 16" Headliner crash cymbal, now a professional dark thin crash:
Sorry for writing in English but my French is terrible. I understand it a bit but I can't write it.
I am a Belgian drummer from Bruges who also hammers cymbals.
I once started hammering cymbals because (to me) no modern factory made cymbal has the "old Turkish K Zildjian" kind of darkness and complexity anymore.
I hammer pro- and also some non-pro-level factory cymbals into much richer sounding cymbals.
Besides creating light complex jazz cymbals, I also hammer heavier rock-oriented cymbals to dramatically enrich the sound.
The cymbals I've hammered can be seen and heard on this INDEX PAGE. Mind you, I have hammered most of these cymbals to suit my personal taste (dark and trashy) but I can also brighten the sound of cymbals with a different hammering method.
Some "before and after modification" files can be heard HERE.
Some student cymbals I hammered into professional cymbals can be listened to HERE.
Here are some pictures (the soundfiles can be found on the site).
This was a Paiste Signature Power ride, hammered to sound like the old 60's Tony Williams ride, but a little heavier:
This was a Zildjian ZBT 20" ride, now a very complex thin professional jazz ride.
This was once a Paiste 2002 22" ride:
Here's a "before and after" pic of a cheap 16" Headliner crash cymbal, now a professional dark thin crash:
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
Johan VDS
60
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Membre depuis 18 ans
71 Posté le 07/10/2006 à 16:29:23
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
Johan VDS
60
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72 Posté le 10/10/2006 à 21:46:09
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
Johan VDS
60
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73 Posté le 12/10/2006 à 20:18:45
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
Johan VDS
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74 Posté le 19/10/2006 à 10:18:34
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
Johan VDS
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75 Posté le 24/10/2006 à 23:14:38
Here are 2 turkish cymbals I just re-created for a Belgian jazzdrummer. Each time you can hear a before and after clip.
- Bosphorus Ferit Turk 20" ride:
http://jvds.byethost15.com/3_BEFORE_AND_AFTER_MODIFICATION/Bosphorus_Ferit_Turk_20_before_and_after.mp3
- Agop Mel Lewis 21". This one had a very bad "barking seal" (a hollow gongy sound) stretching from the cup to halfway down the bow. That's completely gone now.
http://jvds.byethost15.com/3_BEFORE_AND_AFTER_MODIFICATION/Istanbul_Agop_Mel_Lewis_21_before_and_after.mp3
- Bosphorus Ferit Turk 20" ride:
http://jvds.byethost15.com/3_BEFORE_AND_AFTER_MODIFICATION/Bosphorus_Ferit_Turk_20_before_and_after.mp3
- Agop Mel Lewis 21". This one had a very bad "barking seal" (a hollow gongy sound) stretching from the cup to halfway down the bow. That's completely gone now.
http://jvds.byethost15.com/3_BEFORE_AND_AFTER_MODIFICATION/Istanbul_Agop_Mel_Lewis_21_before_and_after.mp3
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
Johan VDS
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76 Posté le 25/10/2006 à 15:34:52
Here's a set of cheap Sabian B8's which I just finished hammering for an Italian drummer.
Before and after clips and pics here:
http://jvds.byethost15.com/3_BEFORE_AND_AFTER_MODIFICATION/AMATEUR_into_PROFESSIONAL/SABIAN_B8_complete_set/
Before and after clips and pics here:
http://jvds.byethost15.com/3_BEFORE_AND_AFTER_MODIFICATION/AMATEUR_into_PROFESSIONAL/SABIAN_B8_complete_set/
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
Johan VDS
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77 Posté le 28/10/2006 à 15:22:15
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
Anonyme
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78 Posté le 28/10/2006 à 15:53:45
What was the model for this Avedis Ride you hammered ? Ping Ride ? I own a 22' Avedis Ping Ride -that is the very first cymbal I bought, circa 1986- which I'd like to "darken", to fit with the other cymbals I own. My cymbals set is now mostly composed from K Custom (14'/17' KC dark crash, 20' KC dark ride, 14' KC dark hihats, 17' KC dark china, 18' K medium thin dark crash) and the Avedis Ping Ride is way too different in terms of sound from the other ones. Do you think it would be a good idea to hammer it ?
Johan VDS
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79 Posté le 28/10/2006 à 17:23:06
Your 22" Avedis is an excellent cymbal to hammer. There are many different ways I can change it.
The above ride was a Medium ride, but whether it's a Ping ride or a Medium it doesn't make much difference. I change the cymbal totally anyway.
If you want to do it just send me an email. You find my emaildress and the hammering prices here:
http://jvds.byethost15.com/MODIFICATION_RATES-PROCEDURE-CONTACT.htm
You can read some comments on my work of drummers from all around the world here:
http://jvds.byethost15.com/PEOPLES_COMMENTS/
The above ride was a Medium ride, but whether it's a Ping ride or a Medium it doesn't make much difference. I change the cymbal totally anyway.
If you want to do it just send me an email. You find my emaildress and the hammering prices here:
http://jvds.byethost15.com/MODIFICATION_RATES-PROCEDURE-CONTACT.htm
You can read some comments on my work of drummers from all around the world here:
http://jvds.byethost15.com/PEOPLES_COMMENTS/
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
Johan VDS
60
Posteur·euse AFfranchi·e
Membre depuis 18 ans
80 Posté le 14/11/2006 à 19:51:26
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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