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Sujet Hand-hammering and re-creating cymbals

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Sujet de la discussion Hand-hammering and re-creating cymbals
Hello !

Sorry for writing in English but my French is terrible. I understand it a bit but I can't write it.

I am a Belgian drummer from Bruges who also hammers cymbals.

I once started hammering cymbals because (to me) no modern factory made cymbal has the "old Turkish K Zildjian" kind of darkness and complexity anymore.

I hammer pro- and also some non-pro-level factory cymbals into much richer sounding cymbals.
Besides creating light complex jazz cymbals, I also hammer heavier rock-oriented cymbals to dramatically enrich the sound.

The cymbals I've hammered can be seen and heard on this INDEX PAGE. Mind you, I have hammered most of these cymbals to suit my personal taste (dark and trashy) but I can also brighten the sound of cymbals with a different hammering method.

Some "before and after modification" files can be heard HERE.

Some student cymbals I hammered into professional cymbals can be listened to HERE.

Here are some pictures (the soundfiles can be found on the site).

This was a Paiste Signature Power ride, hammered to sound like the old 60's Tony Williams ride, but a little heavier:




This was a Zildjian ZBT 20" ride, now a very complex thin professional jazz ride.


This was once a Paiste 2002 22" ride:



Here's a "before and after" pic of a cheap 16" Headliner crash cymbal, now a professional dark thin crash:
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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Hello Johan (and everybody too :p)

I'm really interested by your (amazing) skill. Actually, I don't have a lot of money, that's why I would like to ask you if you can get something from it -> Link to crappy Cymbals

It's made with bronce, but I don't know if it's B8, or B20, or something else ...

Thanks for your beautiful job !
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Brass... :non: ça marchera pas.
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?? ... I knew it already, but look at the link, it's not brass ...

Moreover, I think that Johan hammered already this kind of cymbal (look at the first post of the thread ;) )

Citation : Millenium HL7, Bronce Cymbal Set containing 14" HiHat clearsound with a penetrating open hihat and a crisp chick for a universal range of applications, 16" Crash Bright, clearsound with a complex spread. Explosive attack and a mediumsustain, 20" Ride Balanced, clear sound with a defined,bright ping. Medium sustain with a tonally matched bell,Made in Germany,



There is this cheap set too (Paiste 201 Bronze Essential 13/­18 Set de cymbales) >>> Link
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Sorry for the late answer, I didn't know there was a question waiting.
If it says "bronze" it is normally at least B8 alloy, not brass. So they should be worth hammering. Of course it's possible that these are very thin cymbals, but I don't know.

Here's some beginner's B8 alloy Meinl MCS cymbals I upgraded for a Belgian drummer. Same thing can be done with other (cheap) B8 alloy cymbals.


A 16" Meinl MCS crash hammered into a 16" dark crash:

Before and after SOUNDFILE

picture:
https://www.pearldrummersforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=243083&stc=1



A Meinl 20" Meinl MCS ride, now a 20" Perforation Trashride

Before and after SOUNDFILE

picture:
https://www.pearldrummersforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=243084&stc=1
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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Finished some hihats:

14" Complex Hihats 887-974gr-from Zildjian Avedis

SOUNDFILE









14" Dark Heavy Hihats -from Paiste 2002

SOUNDFILE

See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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Here's a 7" bell cymbal I hammered from a flat B20 bronze alloy disc. (I've also shaped the cup by cold-hammering.)
It's shape is similar to that of a china, so it's perfect for reversed mounting (cup facing down) on top of another cymbal.

It kinda screams, so I called it the Yell Bell.

SOUNDFILE

See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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Here's a 20" Light Complex Full Bell Ride I hammered from a Sabian AA Medium ride.

This one is rather a special hammering concept because the bell has a deeper and fuller sound than you would expect from a cymbal this thin and high pitched.


SOUNDFILE


See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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And a 20" Light Ride 1830 grams I hammered from a Zildjian Avedis Medium ride.


SOUNDFILE


See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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20" Light Complex Ride 1830 grams, hammered from a Ufip Class ride.



SOUNDFILE


See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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The last sounds very well !!!
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