Sujet Hand-hammering and re-creating cymbals
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Johan VDS
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Sujet de la discussion Posté le 23/05/2006 à 18:45:17Hand-hammering and re-creating cymbals
Hello !
Sorry for writing in English but my French is terrible. I understand it a bit but I can't write it.
I am a Belgian drummer from Bruges who also hammers cymbals.
I once started hammering cymbals because (to me) no modern factory made cymbal has the "old Turkish K Zildjian" kind of darkness and complexity anymore.
I hammer pro- and also some non-pro-level factory cymbals into much richer sounding cymbals.
Besides creating light complex jazz cymbals, I also hammer heavier rock-oriented cymbals to dramatically enrich the sound.
The cymbals I've hammered can be seen and heard on this INDEX PAGE. Mind you, I have hammered most of these cymbals to suit my personal taste (dark and trashy) but I can also brighten the sound of cymbals with a different hammering method.
Some "before and after modification" files can be heard HERE.
Some student cymbals I hammered into professional cymbals can be listened to HERE.
Here are some pictures (the soundfiles can be found on the site).
This was a Paiste Signature Power ride, hammered to sound like the old 60's Tony Williams ride, but a little heavier:
This was a Zildjian ZBT 20" ride, now a very complex thin professional jazz ride.
This was once a Paiste 2002 22" ride:
Here's a "before and after" pic of a cheap 16" Headliner crash cymbal, now a professional dark thin crash:
Sorry for writing in English but my French is terrible. I understand it a bit but I can't write it.
I am a Belgian drummer from Bruges who also hammers cymbals.
I once started hammering cymbals because (to me) no modern factory made cymbal has the "old Turkish K Zildjian" kind of darkness and complexity anymore.
I hammer pro- and also some non-pro-level factory cymbals into much richer sounding cymbals.
Besides creating light complex jazz cymbals, I also hammer heavier rock-oriented cymbals to dramatically enrich the sound.
The cymbals I've hammered can be seen and heard on this INDEX PAGE. Mind you, I have hammered most of these cymbals to suit my personal taste (dark and trashy) but I can also brighten the sound of cymbals with a different hammering method.
Some "before and after modification" files can be heard HERE.
Some student cymbals I hammered into professional cymbals can be listened to HERE.
Here are some pictures (the soundfiles can be found on the site).
This was a Paiste Signature Power ride, hammered to sound like the old 60's Tony Williams ride, but a little heavier:
This was a Zildjian ZBT 20" ride, now a very complex thin professional jazz ride.
This was once a Paiste 2002 22" ride:
Here's a "before and after" pic of a cheap 16" Headliner crash cymbal, now a professional dark thin crash:
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
Johan VDS
60
Posteur·euse AFfranchi·e
Membre depuis 18 ans
81 Posté le 19/11/2006 à 16:44:41
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
Anonyme
3397
82 Posté le 20/11/2006 à 12:26:48
Hors sujet : Hey Johan, one of my friends is going to take my A Ping Ride for a try. He drums jazz and misses the dry ping of that cymbal, that he used to play 10 years ago. So, for the moment, I am waiting for his advice.
Johan VDS
60
Posteur·euse AFfranchi·e
Membre depuis 18 ans
83 Posté le 28/11/2006 à 21:49:14
Here's a 17" Perforation Trash which I made from a Zildjian Z Custom Crash.
The SOUNDFILE is a little distorted because of the very loud peak of the crash sound... Still this cymbal can speak very softly too and opens up at the slightest touch. It has a very wide dynamic range and can produce anything from a very quiet warm trashy wash to a fierce oriental crash. It's also very ride-able.
The SOUNDFILE is a little distorted because of the very loud peak of the crash sound... Still this cymbal can speak very softly too and opens up at the slightest touch. It has a very wide dynamic range and can produce anything from a very quiet warm trashy wash to a fierce oriental crash. It's also very ride-able.
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
Lapin
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Squatteur·euse d’AF
Membre depuis 21 ans
85 Posté le 29/11/2006 à 11:51:31
Elle fait un peu crop circle
pistonpistache
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Modérateur·trice thématique
Membre depuis 21 ans
86 Posté le 29/11/2006 à 14:08:23
Woush, elle doit péter les oreilles. On l'entend bien exploser sur la frappe. Inmaitrisable cet engin.
Lapin
3516
Squatteur·euse d’AF
Membre depuis 21 ans
87 Posté le 29/11/2006 à 14:16:22
Si ça se rapproche de la sabian hhx ozone (avé des trous aussi) c'est justement assez maîtrisable, trashy mais beaucoup moins agressif qu'une china.
m1²
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88 Posté le 29/11/2006 à 18:05:14
C'est fragile à quel point ces trucs-là , avé des trous?
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Lapin
3516
Squatteur·euse d’AF
Membre depuis 21 ans
89 Posté le 29/11/2006 à 19:01:42
L'ozone est assez fine et souple, le pote qui l'a, ben il ne l'a pas pétée. Je ne pense pas qu'elle soit spécialement fragile
[jj]
5912
Je poste, donc je suis
Membre depuis 20 ans
90 Posté le 30/11/2006 à 14:12:11
ça doit être un peu "moellleux" quand on tape dedans nan ?
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