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Hand-hammering and re-creating cymbals

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Sujet de la discussion Hand-hammering and re-creating cymbals
Hello !

Sorry for writing in English but my French is terrible. I understand it a bit but I can't write it.

I am a Belgian drummer from Bruges who also hammers cymbals.

I once started hammering cymbals because (to me) no modern factory made cymbal has the "old Turkish K Zildjian" kind of darkness and complexity anymore.

I hammer pro- and also some non-pro-level factory cymbals into much richer sounding cymbals.
Besides creating light complex jazz cymbals, I also hammer heavier rock-oriented cymbals to dramatically enrich the sound.

The cymbals I've hammered can be seen and heard on this INDEX PAGE. Mind you, I have hammered most of these cymbals to suit my personal taste (dark and trashy) but I can also brighten the sound of cymbals with a different hammering method.

Some "before and after modification" files can be heard HERE.

Some student cymbals I hammered into professional cymbals can be listened to HERE.

Here are some pictures (the soundfiles can be found on the site).

This was a Paiste Signature Power ride, hammered to sound like the old 60's Tony Williams ride, but a little heavier:




This was a Zildjian ZBT 20" ride, now a very complex thin professional jazz ride.


This was once a Paiste 2002 22" ride:



Here's a "before and after" pic of a cheap 16" Headliner crash cymbal, now a professional dark thin crash:
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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Flag :8O: (Looking for my Meteor, on sait jamais)
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> Johan

Depending on how you communicate around your activity, I think you can easily get in touch with sound-loving (?!) customers, rather than teenagers dreaming about having jOeY jOrdisSon cymbal sound from their crappy ZBT (for 50€ of course).

Very sincerely , it would be a pity to lose money in practicing your passion, and it would be a pity too not to earn some little cash from it.

For example you could get a simple and affordable website, picturing your workshop and techniques, with of course your database of audio files, and then propose your services or any pseudo-commercial activity you want to launch.

At least, make people understand that you are not just a DIY-geek who wants to show his hobby. No marketting anyway !..

http://www.reverbnation.com/deinmas

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Citation : At least, make people understand that you are not just a DIY-geek who wants to show his hobby. No marketting anyway !


May be you are right, but I hope that when people listen to the soundfiles they will automatically hear that I'm no DIY-geek :D:

Citation : rather than teenagers dreaming about having jOeY jOrdisSon cymbal sound from their crappy ZBT

Well I certainly don't make Joey Jordison sounds but I have been able to convince some rocking teenagers to listen and appreciate richer and more complex sounding (heavy) cymbals. I'm very happy to hammer ZBT's for teenagers when they appreciate a richer sounding cymbal compared to what they can buy in the shop.
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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I still have my meteor, and i found them.
I want to send mine before Lapin, who is from belgium too.
Just to get him jealous.

m1² is right anyway, very few people (I think most of them already posted here), like dark thrashy cymbal. I don't say "jazz", because I hate this way to reduce the way to play.

I ll ask you for a price by private mail. Business is forbidden here :clin:
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Citation : I still have my meteor, and i found them.


Meinl Meteors are brass cymbals like Paiste 302 and Sabian Solar. Brass has very little sound potential. I can't make professional cymbals from them, not even good cymbals. So don't spend any money on that. Only a small minority of brass cymbals have more potential (like brass cymbals from Pearl are usually made from a much better sounding brass variety).

The interesting cheap cymbals to upgrade are the ones made from B8 alloy.
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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Fresh from my hammer, soundfiles on my SITE.

20" Tony Williams (Nefertiti) ride :






20" Complex Dry Crashride :





20" Dry Complex Rough Ride :

See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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Here's some new ones I hammered.


18" Complex Light Ride 1340 gr:

http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/2_CRASHES_and_RIDES_18_inch_and_bigger/18_Complex_Light_Ride_1340gr_%28from_Ufip%29.mp3






20" Light Complex Dry Jazz ride 1870gr:

http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/2_CRASHES_and_RIDES_18_inch_and_bigger/20_Light_Complex_Dry_Jazz_ride_1870gr_%28from_Zildjian_Avedis%29.mp3







20" Complex Light Jazz Ride 1850gr :

http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/2_CRASHES_and_RIDES_18_inch_and_bigger/20_Complex_Light_Jazz_Ride_1850gr_%28from_Zildjian_Avedis%29.mp3







And finally, a 22" Paiste Signature Power Ride, hammered and lathed into a 22,75" Extra Dark ride, 2820 gr. The very soft B15 "Paiste Alloy" allowed me to make the cymbal 0,75" larger!

http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/2_CRASHES_and_RIDES_18_inch_and_bigger/22%2C75_Extra_Dark_Ride_2820gr_%28from_Paiste_Signature_22_Power_Ride%29.mp3





Pics and soundfiles of many other cymbals on my webspace !
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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I think that developping your website and make one with a real design and pictures of your factory could increase your buisness
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Here's a newly finished 20" Tony Williams "Nefertiti" ride.

Please copy the entire link to a new browser window to hear the soundfile.

http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/5_NEFERTITI_RIDES_and_related/20_Complex_Medium_Ride_2335gr_(from_Zildjian_Avedis).mp3

See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals