Sujet Hand-hammering and re-creating cymbals
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Johan VDS
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Sujet de la discussion Posté le 23/05/2006 à 18:45:17Hand-hammering and re-creating cymbals
Hello !
Sorry for writing in English but my French is terrible. I understand it a bit but I can't write it.
I am a Belgian drummer from Bruges who also hammers cymbals.
I once started hammering cymbals because (to me) no modern factory made cymbal has the "old Turkish K Zildjian" kind of darkness and complexity anymore.
I hammer pro- and also some non-pro-level factory cymbals into much richer sounding cymbals.
Besides creating light complex jazz cymbals, I also hammer heavier rock-oriented cymbals to dramatically enrich the sound.
The cymbals I've hammered can be seen and heard on this INDEX PAGE. Mind you, I have hammered most of these cymbals to suit my personal taste (dark and trashy) but I can also brighten the sound of cymbals with a different hammering method.
Some "before and after modification" files can be heard HERE.
Some student cymbals I hammered into professional cymbals can be listened to HERE.
Here are some pictures (the soundfiles can be found on the site).
This was a Paiste Signature Power ride, hammered to sound like the old 60's Tony Williams ride, but a little heavier:
This was a Zildjian ZBT 20" ride, now a very complex thin professional jazz ride.
This was once a Paiste 2002 22" ride:
Here's a "before and after" pic of a cheap 16" Headliner crash cymbal, now a professional dark thin crash:
Sorry for writing in English but my French is terrible. I understand it a bit but I can't write it.
I am a Belgian drummer from Bruges who also hammers cymbals.
I once started hammering cymbals because (to me) no modern factory made cymbal has the "old Turkish K Zildjian" kind of darkness and complexity anymore.
I hammer pro- and also some non-pro-level factory cymbals into much richer sounding cymbals.
Besides creating light complex jazz cymbals, I also hammer heavier rock-oriented cymbals to dramatically enrich the sound.
The cymbals I've hammered can be seen and heard on this INDEX PAGE. Mind you, I have hammered most of these cymbals to suit my personal taste (dark and trashy) but I can also brighten the sound of cymbals with a different hammering method.
Some "before and after modification" files can be heard HERE.
Some student cymbals I hammered into professional cymbals can be listened to HERE.
Here are some pictures (the soundfiles can be found on the site).
This was a Paiste Signature Power ride, hammered to sound like the old 60's Tony Williams ride, but a little heavier:
This was a Zildjian ZBT 20" ride, now a very complex thin professional jazz ride.
This was once a Paiste 2002 22" ride:
Here's a "before and after" pic of a cheap 16" Headliner crash cymbal, now a professional dark thin crash:
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
Johan VDS
60
Posteur·euse AFfranchi·e
Membre depuis 18 ans
21 Posté le 16/06/2006 à 20:31:29
Two sets of heavily modified Paiste 2002 hihats, now both light jazzy hihats.
13" Light hats :
http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/3_HIHATS/13_Light_Hihats_577_775gr_%28from_Paiste_2002%29.mp3
15" Light hats :
http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/3_HIHATS/15_Light_Hihats_894_924gr_%28from_Paiste_2002%29.mp3
13" Light hats :
http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/3_HIHATS/13_Light_Hihats_577_775gr_%28from_Paiste_2002%29.mp3
15" Light hats :
http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/3_HIHATS/15_Light_Hihats_894_924gr_%28from_Paiste_2002%29.mp3
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
Johan VDS
60
Posteur·euse AFfranchi·e
Membre depuis 18 ans
22 Posté le 18/06/2006 à 10:12:19
20" Bright Medium Complex Ride 2210 grams
http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/2_CRASHES_and_RIDES_18_inch_and_bigger/20_Bright_Medium_Complex_Ride_2210gr_%28from_Sabian_AA%29.mp3
http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/2_CRASHES_and_RIDES_18_inch_and_bigger/20_Bright_Medium_Complex_Ride_2210gr_%28from_Sabian_AA%29.mp3
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
Johan VDS
60
Posteur·euse AFfranchi·e
Membre depuis 18 ans
23 Posté le 24/06/2006 à 15:24:31
Here's a new special effects cymbal I hammered. I called it the 18" "Ripple Trash" for obvious reasons. It's 1850 grams and has several sounds. It can be used as a china-like cymbal but also as a ride.
http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/4_SPLASHES-CHINAS-EFFECTCYMBALS/18_Ripple_Trash_1850gr_(from_Ufip).mp3
Also a newly hammered 24" Tony Williams ("Nefertiti") ride 2985 grams.
http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/5_NEFERTITI_RIDES_and_related/24_Dark_Complex_Ride_2985_gr_(from_Zildjian_Avedis).mp3
Some more new cymbals, including hihats and effects, can be found on my site (cf my signature beneath).
http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/4_SPLASHES-CHINAS-EFFECTCYMBALS/18_Ripple_Trash_1850gr_(from_Ufip).mp3
Also a newly hammered 24" Tony Williams ("Nefertiti") ride 2985 grams.
http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/5_NEFERTITI_RIDES_and_related/24_Dark_Complex_Ride_2985_gr_(from_Zildjian_Avedis).mp3
Some more new cymbals, including hihats and effects, can be found on my site (cf my signature beneath).
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
Menclay_703
32
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Membre depuis 18 ans
24 Posté le 24/06/2006 à 18:24:51
Impressive!
Johan VDS
60
Posteur·euse AFfranchi·e
Membre depuis 18 ans
25 Posté le 03/07/2006 à 12:29:38
Now for some brighter stuff.
14" Bright Crisp Hihats 903-1130gr
http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/3_HIHATS/14_Bright_Crisp_Hihats_903_1130gr_-from_Paiste_2002.mp3
18" Bright Dry Ride 1530gr
http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/2_CRASHES_and_RIDES_18_inch_and_bigger/18_Bright_Dry_Ride_1530gr_-from_Paiste_2002.mp3
14" Bright Crisp Hihats 903-1130gr
http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/3_HIHATS/14_Bright_Crisp_Hihats_903_1130gr_-from_Paiste_2002.mp3
18" Bright Dry Ride 1530gr
http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/2_CRASHES_and_RIDES_18_inch_and_bigger/18_Bright_Dry_Ride_1530gr_-from_Paiste_2002.mp3
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
Johan VDS
60
Posteur·euse AFfranchi·e
Membre depuis 18 ans
26 Posté le 07/07/2006 à 00:08:06
Here's Sabian AA 20" Crash which was very high pitched, but I hammered it into a 20" Dark Crash. Sounds like THIS now and here's what it looks like:
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
Johan VDS
60
Posteur·euse AFfranchi·e
Membre depuis 18 ans
27 Posté le 15/07/2006 à 19:29:04
Here's a 20" Paiste Traditional Medium Light Ride I completely rehammered.
Here's a "before and after" SOUNDFILE
Here's a "before and after" SOUNDFILE
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
Johan VDS
60
Posteur·euse AFfranchi·e
Membre depuis 18 ans
28 Posté le 16/07/2006 à 16:08:23
Here's a 20" Tony Williams "Nefertiti" style of ride I hammered from a Zildjian Avedis Medium Ride.
SOUNDFILE
Also a 20" High Complex Jazz Ride, hammered from a Ufip Class Ride.
SOUNDFILE
SOUNDFILE
Also a 20" High Complex Jazz Ride, hammered from a Ufip Class Ride.
SOUNDFILE
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
boitaRytm (ex-warmen)
2026
AFicionado·a
Membre depuis 21 ans
29 Posté le 18/07/2006 à 00:30:14
Hello!
I've got a china 18" that I bought without trying it (big mistake). It doesn't sound really good, too dry, lack of the "tsshhh" (I don't how to express it) and the volume is too loud...
is there some ideas to make it better ??
I've got a china 18" that I bought without trying it (big mistake). It doesn't sound really good, too dry, lack of the "tsshhh" (I don't how to express it) and the volume is too loud...
is there some ideas to make it better ??
Subtil et versatil, le reptile tranquil, entre dans le rythme comme on entre dans une femme facile...
Johan VDS
60
Posteur·euse AFfranchi·e
Membre depuis 18 ans
30 Posté le 18/07/2006 à 09:39:42
Citation : is there some ideas to make it better ??
If you have no hammering experience you'll ruin or break the cymbal if you try to hammer it yourself.Anyway, each cymbal is different and needs to be hammered differently to achieve a certain sound. I could only tell what needs to be done when I take the cymbal in my own hands.
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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