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Hand-hammering and re-creating cymbals

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Sujet de la discussion Hand-hammering and re-creating cymbals
Hello !

Sorry for writing in English but my French is terrible. I understand it a bit but I can't write it.

I am a Belgian drummer from Bruges who also hammers cymbals.

I once started hammering cymbals because (to me) no modern factory made cymbal has the "old Turkish K Zildjian" kind of darkness and complexity anymore.

I hammer pro- and also some non-pro-level factory cymbals into much richer sounding cymbals.
Besides creating light complex jazz cymbals, I also hammer heavier rock-oriented cymbals to dramatically enrich the sound.

The cymbals I've hammered can be seen and heard on this INDEX PAGE. Mind you, I have hammered most of these cymbals to suit my personal taste (dark and trashy) but I can also brighten the sound of cymbals with a different hammering method.

Some "before and after modification" files can be heard HERE.

Some student cymbals I hammered into professional cymbals can be listened to HERE.

Here are some pictures (the soundfiles can be found on the site).

This was a Paiste Signature Power ride, hammered to sound like the old 60's Tony Williams ride, but a little heavier:




This was a Zildjian ZBT 20" ride, now a very complex thin professional jazz ride.


This was once a Paiste 2002 22" ride:



Here's a "before and after" pic of a cheap 16" Headliner crash cymbal, now a professional dark thin crash:
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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Two sets of heavily modified Paiste 2002 hihats, now both light jazzy hihats.


13" Light hats :

http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/3_HIHATS/13_Light_Hihats_577_775gr_%28from_Paiste_2002%29.mp3








15" Light hats :

http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/3_HIHATS/15_Light_Hihats_894_924gr_%28from_Paiste_2002%29.mp3

See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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20" Bright Medium Complex Ride 2210 grams


http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/2_CRASHES_and_RIDES_18_inch_and_bigger/20_Bright_Medium_Complex_Ride_2210gr_%28from_Sabian_AA%29.mp3

See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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Here's a new special effects cymbal I hammered. I called it the 18" "Ripple Trash" for obvious reasons. It's 1850 grams and has several sounds. It can be used as a china-like cymbal but also as a ride.



http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/4_SPLASHES-CHINAS-EFFECTCYMBALS/18_Ripple_Trash_1850gr_(from_Ufip).mp3






Also a newly hammered 24" Tony Williams ("Nefertiti") ride 2985 grams.

http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/5_NEFERTITI_RIDES_and_related/24_Dark_Complex_Ride_2985_gr_(from_Zildjian_Avedis).mp3








Some more new cymbals, including hihats and effects, can be found on my site (cf my signature beneath).
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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Impressive! :bravo:
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Now for some brighter stuff.


14" Bright Crisp Hihats 903-1130gr

http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/3_HIHATS/14_Bright_Crisp_Hihats_903_1130gr_-from_Paiste_2002.mp3






18" Bright Dry Ride 1530gr

http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/2_CRASHES_and_RIDES_18_inch_and_bigger/18_Bright_Dry_Ride_1530gr_-from_Paiste_2002.mp3

See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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Here's Sabian AA 20" Crash which was very high pitched, but I hammered it into a 20" Dark Crash. Sounds like THIS now and here's what it looks like:

See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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Here's a 20" Paiste Traditional Medium Light Ride I completely rehammered.

Here's a "before and after" SOUNDFILE


See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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Here's a 20" Tony Williams "Nefertiti" style of ride I hammered from a Zildjian Avedis Medium Ride.

SOUNDFILE







Also a 20" High Complex Jazz Ride, hammered from a Ufip Class Ride.

SOUNDFILE

See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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Hello!
I've got a china 18" that I bought without trying it (big mistake). It doesn't sound really good, too dry, lack of the "tsshhh" (I don't how to express it) and the volume is too loud...
is there some ideas to make it better ??
Subtil et versatil, le reptile tranquil, entre dans le rythme comme on entre dans une femme facile...
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Citation : is there some ideas to make it better ??

If you have no hammering experience you'll ruin or break the cymbal if you try to hammer it yourself.
Anyway, each cymbal is different and needs to be hammered differently to achieve a certain sound. I could only tell what needs to be done when I take the cymbal in my own hands.
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals