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Hand-hammering and re-creating cymbals

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Sujet de la discussion Hand-hammering and re-creating cymbals
Hello !

Sorry for writing in English but my French is terrible. I understand it a bit but I can't write it.

I am a Belgian drummer from Bruges who also hammers cymbals.

I once started hammering cymbals because (to me) no modern factory made cymbal has the "old Turkish K Zildjian" kind of darkness and complexity anymore.

I hammer pro- and also some non-pro-level factory cymbals into much richer sounding cymbals.
Besides creating light complex jazz cymbals, I also hammer heavier rock-oriented cymbals to dramatically enrich the sound.

The cymbals I've hammered can be seen and heard on this INDEX PAGE. Mind you, I have hammered most of these cymbals to suit my personal taste (dark and trashy) but I can also brighten the sound of cymbals with a different hammering method.

Some "before and after modification" files can be heard HERE.

Some student cymbals I hammered into professional cymbals can be listened to HERE.

Here are some pictures (the soundfiles can be found on the site).

This was a Paiste Signature Power ride, hammered to sound like the old 60's Tony Williams ride, but a little heavier:




This was a Zildjian ZBT 20" ride, now a very complex thin professional jazz ride.


This was once a Paiste 2002 22" ride:



Here's a "before and after" pic of a cheap 16" Headliner crash cymbal, now a professional dark thin crash:
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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Ok!! I expected this answer!! It would be quite hard to meet, I'm not even french, I'm tunisian... a little bit far from you :D:
anyway, my china will be a good decoration for my chamber's wallw :fou:
thanks a lot
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Johan-> I wonder what you call "nefertiti ride".
Is that because it's sound like the one on "nefertiti", or did tony williams have a special ride for this song?

I mean, I thought tony williams used to play sometimes on a 24" ride... Is that what you mean?
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Citation : Johan-> I wonder what you call "nefertiti ride".
Is that because it's sound like the one on "nefertiti"

Tony Williams used the same 22" old K Zildjian on most recordings during his Miles years. I've just picked the name "Nefertiti" because it's a well known Miles Davis album where his cymbal can also be heard clearly.

I'm trying to capture that sound into 20" to 24" cymbals. You can hear and see all of them here:
http://jvds.byethost15.com/1_RECREATED_CUSTOM_CYMBALS/5_NEFERTITI_RIDES_and_related/
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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Flag :aime2:
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Yes flag too!!!! :lol:

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Some re-created 15" crashes:

15" Dark Medium Crash, made from a 15" Zildjian Avedis crash.

SOUNDFILE








15" Dark Thin Fast Crash, made from a Sabian AA 15" crash.

SOUNDFILE

See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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On Cymbalholic, some American drummers have posted a review of cymbals I hammered for them :

http://www.cymbalholic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11957

http://www.cymbalholic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11948


Also some general comment about my work:

http://www.cymbalholic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11932
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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Here's a set of fairly bright 13" funky hihats I hammered from Ufip 13" hats.


SOUNDFILE

See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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An American drummer sent me two 20" Paiste B8 alloy cymbals (crash and ride) and asked me to convert them into a 20" Ripple Trash and an 18" Radial Trash.

Here's a before and after clip of the ride, which is now a 20" Ripple trash.
http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/3_BEFORE_AND_AFTER_MODIFICATION/Paiste_B8_alloy_ride_before_and_after_into_20_Ripple_Trash.mp3

Looks like this now:





Here's a before and after clip of the crash, which is now a Radial Trash.
http://users.telenet.be/cymbzdrumz/3_BEFORE_AND_AFTER_MODIFICATION/Paiste_B8_alloy_Crash_before_and_after_into_18_Radial_Trash.mp3

See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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How long does it take you for such a cymbal work ?
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