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Hand-hammering and re-creating cymbals

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Sujet de la discussion Hand-hammering and re-creating cymbals
Hello !

Sorry for writing in English but my French is terrible. I understand it a bit but I can't write it.

I am a Belgian drummer from Bruges who also hammers cymbals.

I once started hammering cymbals because (to me) no modern factory made cymbal has the "old Turkish K Zildjian" kind of darkness and complexity anymore.

I hammer pro- and also some non-pro-level factory cymbals into much richer sounding cymbals.
Besides creating light complex jazz cymbals, I also hammer heavier rock-oriented cymbals to dramatically enrich the sound.

The cymbals I've hammered can be seen and heard on this INDEX PAGE. Mind you, I have hammered most of these cymbals to suit my personal taste (dark and trashy) but I can also brighten the sound of cymbals with a different hammering method.

Some "before and after modification" files can be heard HERE.

Some student cymbals I hammered into professional cymbals can be listened to HERE.

Here are some pictures (the soundfiles can be found on the site).

This was a Paiste Signature Power ride, hammered to sound like the old 60's Tony Williams ride, but a little heavier:




This was a Zildjian ZBT 20" ride, now a very complex thin professional jazz ride.


This was once a Paiste 2002 22" ride:



Here's a "before and after" pic of a cheap 16" Headliner crash cymbal, now a professional dark thin crash:
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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Here's a set of cheap Sabian B8's which I just finished hammering for an Italian drummer.

Before and after clips and pics here:
http://jvds.byethost15.com/3_BEFORE_AND_AFTER_MODIFICATION/AMATEUR_into_PROFESSIONAL/SABIAN_B8_complete_set/
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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20" Light Jazzride 1850 grams, hammered from a Zildjian Avedis.


SOUNDFILE


See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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What was the model for this Avedis Ride you hammered ? Ping Ride ? I own a 22' Avedis Ping Ride -that is the very first cymbal I bought, circa 1986- which I'd like to "darken", to fit with the other cymbals I own. My cymbals set is now mostly composed from K Custom (14'/17' KC dark crash, 20' KC dark ride, 14' KC dark hihats, 17' KC dark china, 18' K medium thin dark crash) and the Avedis Ping Ride is way too different in terms of sound from the other ones. Do you think it would be a good idea to hammer it ?
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Your 22" Avedis is an excellent cymbal to hammer. There are many different ways I can change it.

The above ride was a Medium ride, but whether it's a Ping ride or a Medium it doesn't make much difference. I change the cymbal totally anyway.

If you want to do it just send me an email. You find my emaildress and the hammering prices here:
http://jvds.byethost15.com/MODIFICATION_RATES-PROCEDURE-CONTACT.htm


You can read some comments on my work of drummers from all around the world here:
http://jvds.byethost15.com/PEOPLES_COMMENTS/
See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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16" Brash Crash, hammered from a Zildjian Avedis 16" Medium Crash.


SOUNDFILE


See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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20" Complex Flatride (2205 grams) hammered from a Zildjian Avedis.



SOUNDFILE

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Hors sujet : Hey Johan, one of my friends is going to take my A Ping Ride for a try. He drums jazz and misses the dry ping of that cymbal, that he used to play 10 years ago. So, for the moment, I am waiting for his advice.

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Here's a 17" Perforation Trash which I made from a Zildjian Z Custom Crash.

The SOUNDFILE is a little distorted because of the very loud peak of the crash sound... Still this cymbal can speak very softly too and opens up at the slightest touch. It has a very wide dynamic range and can produce anything from a very quiet warm trashy wash to a fierce oriental crash. It's also very ride-able.

See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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Elle fait un peu crop circle :bravo:
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Woush, elle doit péter les oreilles. On l'entend bien exploser sur la frappe. Inmaitrisable cet engin.
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Si ça se rapproche de la sabian hhx ozone (avé des trous aussi) c'est justement assez maîtrisable, trashy mais beaucoup moins agressif qu'une china.
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C'est fragile à quel point ces trucs-là , avé des trous?

http://www.reverbnation.com/deinmas

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L'ozone est assez fine et souple, le pote qui l'a, ben il ne l'a pas pétée. Je ne pense pas qu'elle soit spécialement fragile :noidea:
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ça doit être un peu "moellleux" quand on tape dedans nan ?
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Oui, moi je situerais ça entre une swish et une thin dark crash gros diamètre.
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ça doit être un peu déstabilisant franchement au début ! surtout si tu alterne ton jeu sur plusieurs cymbales, des modèles bien solides et que hop tu passes la dessus... :tourne:
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20" Complex Ride 2215 grams -from Sabian AA


SOUNDFILE


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...Mais pourquoi on cherche à pêter les oreilles des autres musiciens? Vous n'avez même pas l'idée du boucan d'enfer qu'elles produisent!
Si c'est pour du plaisir :lol: ...alors faites vous plaisir, mais quand on joue avec d'autres musiciens on a l'interêt à ne pas les couvrir (surtout dans un petit local...là où joue la plupart des musiciens!).
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Tu réponds à qui là? :?!: Quoi qui produit un boucan d'enfer?
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Here's a Tony Williams-style 22" Complex "Nefertiti" Ride weighing 2425 grams.


SOUNDFILE

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Here's a 20" Light Complex Bright ride 1740 grams, hammered from a Ufip.


SOUNDCLIP











And an 18" Dark Crash, hammered from a Sabian AA El Sabor.


SOUNDCLIP

See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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There are some new creations on my new website.



Some of them are:



A 7" Splash, hammered from a B20 bronze disc.

SOUNDFILE








A 14" China.

SOUNDFILE







A 15" Dark Thin Crash.

SOUNDFILE








An 18" Dark Crashride.

SOUNDFILE


See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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20" Light Trashy Ride, 1715 grams:

SOUNDFILE








17" Dark Fast Crash, 1070 grams :

SOUNDFILE









20" Complex Ride 1900 grams:

SOUNDFILE









17" Dark Crash (works as a light ride too) 1265 grams:

SOUNDFILE

See and hear my custom cymbals:JOHAN Custom Cymbals
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Johan-> a partir de quelles cymbales tu as travaillé pour

17" Dark Fast Crash, 1070 grams :aime:
et
A 15" Dark Thin Crash. :aime2:

D'ailleurs la plupart de tes anciens fichiers ont disparus :((