Cubase trop cher
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Gouyousf
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Sujet de la discussion Posté le 23/12/2007 à 18:11:39Cubase trop cher
Je travaille sur cubase depuis des années..
Ce n'est pas parfait mais j'en suis très content...
Par contre, je ne comprends pas le prix.. C'est incroyable...
Playback:
cubase 4 869 euros (chez thOMANN 766 en francais???? bizarre)
DIgital performer 575euros
Cakewalk 499 euros
Logic 479 euros
COmme justifier une différence de prix pareil.
Il ne semble que CUbase n'est non plus le séquenceur le plus robuste et le plus stable...
???
Je me demande si je ne vais pas passer sur Logic par exemple
Ce n'est pas parfait mais j'en suis très content...
Par contre, je ne comprends pas le prix.. C'est incroyable...
Playback:
cubase 4 869 euros (chez thOMANN 766 en francais???? bizarre)
DIgital performer 575euros
Cakewalk 499 euros
Logic 479 euros
COmme justifier une différence de prix pareil.
Il ne semble que CUbase n'est non plus le séquenceur le plus robuste et le plus stable...
???
Je me demande si je ne vais pas passer sur Logic par exemple
uilean
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Membre depuis 20 ans
2 Posté le 23/12/2007 à 18:38:41
C'est parce que Apple a une politique très volontariste Logic 7 coutait plus de 1000 euros
Si tu passes sur Logic c'est sur mac only; DP aussi
Si tu passes sur Logic c'est sur mac only; DP aussi
ne jamais acheter de high tech sur C Discount pas de SAV
bessinnox
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Je poste, donc je suis
Membre depuis 22 ans
3 Posté le 23/12/2007 à 18:55:06
Apparemment steinberg fait la même chose pour les possesseurs de cubase LE , ils sentent le vent tourner...
Anonyme
434
4 Posté le 23/12/2007 à 21:06:27
Salut,
Il ne faut pas hesiter non plus,ne pas avoir peur,d'essayer Reaper meme si le prix là est plutot faible...
(version 2020 à ce jour- La version "Mac" est prevue pour debut 2008)
bon noel 2007
Il ne faut pas hesiter non plus,ne pas avoir peur,d'essayer Reaper meme si le prix là est plutot faible...
(version 2020 à ce jour- La version "Mac" est prevue pour debut 2008)
bon noel 2007
Gouyousf
116
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Membre depuis 22 ans
5 Posté le 24/12/2007 à 14:02:41
C'est quand même bien bien compliqué aux premiers abords LOGIC...
;-(
;-(
JeffD.
294
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Membre depuis 20 ans
6 Posté le 24/12/2007 à 14:22:14
Ne pas oublier la version cubase STUDIO 4 qui est déja très très complète et qu'on trouve a moins de 400€
JeffD.
kinikon
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7 Posté le 24/12/2007 à 14:55:54
Cubase Studio que tu peux avoir à 199 $ (alors vu le cours du $ ......) pour peu que tu sois étudiant ou travaille pour l'Education nationale
moi, j'ai acheté le mien là-bas, pas d'embrouilles, très dispos par mail, pas cher de frais d'envois et reçu en 1 semaine ! le rêve !
Paiement sécurité par Paypal et garantie
https://cgi.ebay.com/STEINBERG-CUBASE-STUDIO-4-4-0-ACADEMIC-VERSION-NEW_W0QQitemZ220185222456QQihZ012QQcategoryZ41786QQcmdZViewItem
moi, j'ai acheté le mien là-bas, pas d'embrouilles, très dispos par mail, pas cher de frais d'envois et reçu en 1 semaine ! le rêve !
Paiement sécurité par Paypal et garantie
https://cgi.ebay.com/STEINBERG-CUBASE-STUDIO-4-4-0-ACADEMIC-VERSION-NEW_W0QQitemZ220185222456QQihZ012QQcategoryZ41786QQcmdZViewItem
Anonyme
434
8 Posté le 24/12/2007 à 15:30:56
Re,
allez comme c'est Noel j'en rajoute une belle couche
Donc...Reaper pour 50 euro c'est tout cà (la version shareware est illimitée)
(copicollé )
REAPER
64 bit audio engine
Excellent low-latency performance
Stunning multiprocessor performance
Direct multi-track recording to many formats including WAV/BWF/W64, AIFF, WavPack, FLAC, OGG, and MIDI.
Extremely flexible routing
Fast, tool-less editing
Supports a wide range of hardware (nearly any audio interface, outboard hardware, many control surfaces)
Support for VST, VSTi, DX, DXi effects
ReaPlugs: high quality 64 bit effect suite
Tightly coded - installer is just over 3MB
__________________________________________________________________________
Technical Specifications
Media Support
Can natively decode:
WAV/W64/BWF (8/16/20/24/32 bit PCM, 32/64 bit float)
AIFF (8/16/20/24/32 bit PCM)
Monkey's Audio (APE)
WavPack
FLAC
OGG Vorbis
MP3
MIDI
SYX
Can natively record to/render to:
WAV/W64/BWF
AIFF
Monkey's Audio (APE)
WavPack
FLAC
OGG Vorbis
MIDI
MP3 (if lame_enc.dll installed)
CUE/BIN (CD ISO)
Can decode audio/preview video:
AVI, WMV, MPG
MOV (requires QuickTime)
Support for any combination of source media of varying bit depth, sample rate, formats
Tracks / Routing
Support for an unlimited number of tracks*
Volume, pan controls and envelopes per track and per send
Project pan law configuration, per-track/per-send pan law override
Every track can act as a bus, enabling extensive routing flexibility
Unlimited send/receives per track*, with configurable parameters (pre-fx, post-fx, volume/pan adjustment/envelopes, mix to mono, phase, etc)
Tracks can have one or more (mono or stereo) hardware sends, for analog mixing capability
Industry leading Routing Matrix that enables you to quickly see and change routing, record inputs, and hardware outputs
Fully routable/FX-able folder tracks that can contain and group tracks
True 64-bit floating point end-to-end signal path (not just 64-bit summing)
Support for feedback routing, if desired
Editing Facilities
Realtime fading, crossfading, and auto-crossfading of items
Multi-layer undo/redo with history window (works on all project settings including edits, routing, plug-ins, etc)
Pitch shifting and time stretching per item
Arbitrary item grouping
Tab to transient support
Highly configurable editing playback behavior (autoseeking to audition edits, etc)
Ripple editing (in one track or in all tracks)
Grid/snap support with highly configurable options
Supports multiple time signatures and tempos per project
Markers
Regions, ability to move/copy regions (and all of their contents)
Multiple takes per media item
Piano roll MIDI editor for MIDI items
Project playspeed control/envelope support (equivilent of changing tape speed, fully automateable)
Optional Smooth Seeking (at marker/region or end-of-measure), for easy previewing of transitions
Hardware Utilization
ASIO, WDM Kernel Streaming, WaveOut, and DirectSound support for playback and recording
Supports any samplerate from 8khz to 192khz+*
Advanced (highly effective) multi-processing support (can heavily utilize 2 or more processors)*
MIDI input/output using standard Windows MIDI
Support for some MIDI control surfaces (Behringer BCF2000, Frontier TranzPort and AlphaTrack, PreSonus FaderPort, and Mackie BabyHUI and MCU)
Supports assigning MIDI events to actions, FX parameters
Input/output channel name aliasing ("MOTU 896: Analog 1" becomes "Vocal Mic", etc)
Supports ReWire to other ReWire enabled applications
Supports ReWire slave mode for other applications
ReaRoute: enables most ASIO-enabled applications to send/receive audio to/from REAPER
ReaInsert: enables inserting external hardware anywhere in REAPER's FX chains, with full auto latency compensation
Recording Facilities
Auto punch-in/punch-out functionality
Multiple auto punch-in/punch-out functionality
Record monitoring: always-on, always-off, or tape style auto monitoring
Support for recording track audio output (including with routing in place)
Support for recording track MIDI output
Support for recording the mixed down signal of multiple tracks
Support for arm/disarming inputs while recording
Support for changing recording sources on the fly
MIDI overdub/replace recording modes
On the fly building of recorded item peaks
Lots of control for to specify where recorded files are stored, on both system and per-project levels.
Supports CD burning
Plug-in Support
Flexible FX chains allow unlimited FX per track*
Network FX support -- run FX on spare machines on your local network
Automatic plug-in delay compensation (PDC)**
Easy manipulation of FX via drag and drop or cut and paste
Save/load FX chain to disk, can set a default track chain
Envelopes for FX parameter automation
FX parameter automation recording
MIDI learn for FX parameters
Supports VST/VSTi plug-ins:
Support for 64-bit double precision plug-ins
Support for plug-ins that output/process MIDI
Support for tempo synchronized plug-ins
Supports DX/DXi plug-ins
Supports ReWire devices
Supports inserting external hardware as plug-in FX, with automatic delay compensation
Supports (and includes) user-programmable Jesusonic effects
Bundled Effects
ReaGate: a sidechain-capable noise gate with lookahead and hysteresis controls. ReaGate can also send MIDI events on gate open/close, for triggering samples/etc.
ReaComp: a sidechain-capable configurable compressor with lookahead, configurable knee size, optional feedback mode, and configurable RMS window. ReaComp can be tweaked to sound like many popular hardware and software compressors.
ReaXComp: an unlimited multiband compressor with configurable attack/release, ratio, knee size, feedback mode, RMS window and more per-band. ReaXComp provides a fast and clean interface for the abusive squishing of audio.
ReaEQ: a fast, configurable EQ, with support for any number of many kinds of filters.
ReaFIR: an FFT-based EQ and dynamics processor. ReaFIR can perform as an EQ, but can also do very powerful per-band compression, noise removal, and gating.
ReaVerb: a convolution reverb that lets you synthesize, load, and manipulate reverb impulses on the fly.
ReaVerbate: a simple and efficient algorithmic reverb.
ReaInsert: enables inserting outboard hardware (FX or MIDI synthesizers) as if it was an effect plug-in.
ReaStream: allows sending of audio and/or MIDI over local network segments to other instances of REAPER.
ReaNINJAM: connect to NINJAM servers from within REAPER!
ReaTune: a very fast and accurate instrument/vocal tuner, with automatic and manual correction options
ReaSamplOmatic5000: a simple but powerful MIDI sampler that can be used for both drum triggering and as an instrument.
ReaSynth: a tiny sine/square wave soft synthesizer
ReaSynDr: a tiny "oldschool" style drum synthesizer
Many Jesusonic effects, including: M/S encoder/decoder, delay, distortion, parameteric EQ, guitar amp simulation, chorus, flanger, phaser, tremolo, pitch shifter, and more!
Customizability
Track and project template support
User creatable color themes
Customizable icon themes
User assignable and changeable hotkeys
Extensive behavior options for letting users of other software adapt quickly
Mixer, transport, media explorer, undo history, routing matrix, performance meters can be either docked, hidden, or undocked
Template support to make it easy to load a project template and save it as a new project when you begin.
Options for automatically backing up project files to alternate paths, timestamped versions, etc.
Jesusonic FX can be edited and/or created on the fly, during program operation/playback/recording
Compatibility
Extensive rendering and consolidation options for easy export to other applications
Support for a large number of industry standard file formats
Vegas and Samplitude EDL text import/export
System Requirements
Minimum system: Windows 98/ME/2000/XP with 128MB RAM, 10MB free disk space, 800x600 in 256 colors or higher, Windows compatible sound hardware
Recommended system: Windows 2000/XP with 1GB RAM, >1GB free disk space, 1280x1024 in 16.7M colors, ASIO sound drivers
@+
allez comme c'est Noel j'en rajoute une belle couche
Donc...Reaper pour 50 euro c'est tout cà (la version shareware est illimitée)
(copicollé )
REAPER
64 bit audio engine
Excellent low-latency performance
Stunning multiprocessor performance
Direct multi-track recording to many formats including WAV/BWF/W64, AIFF, WavPack, FLAC, OGG, and MIDI.
Extremely flexible routing
Fast, tool-less editing
Supports a wide range of hardware (nearly any audio interface, outboard hardware, many control surfaces)
Support for VST, VSTi, DX, DXi effects
ReaPlugs: high quality 64 bit effect suite
Tightly coded - installer is just over 3MB
__________________________________________________________________________
Technical Specifications
Media Support
Can natively decode:
WAV/W64/BWF (8/16/20/24/32 bit PCM, 32/64 bit float)
AIFF (8/16/20/24/32 bit PCM)
Monkey's Audio (APE)
WavPack
FLAC
OGG Vorbis
MP3
MIDI
SYX
Can natively record to/render to:
WAV/W64/BWF
AIFF
Monkey's Audio (APE)
WavPack
FLAC
OGG Vorbis
MIDI
MP3 (if lame_enc.dll installed)
CUE/BIN (CD ISO)
Can decode audio/preview video:
AVI, WMV, MPG
MOV (requires QuickTime)
Support for any combination of source media of varying bit depth, sample rate, formats
Tracks / Routing
Support for an unlimited number of tracks*
Volume, pan controls and envelopes per track and per send
Project pan law configuration, per-track/per-send pan law override
Every track can act as a bus, enabling extensive routing flexibility
Unlimited send/receives per track*, with configurable parameters (pre-fx, post-fx, volume/pan adjustment/envelopes, mix to mono, phase, etc)
Tracks can have one or more (mono or stereo) hardware sends, for analog mixing capability
Industry leading Routing Matrix that enables you to quickly see and change routing, record inputs, and hardware outputs
Fully routable/FX-able folder tracks that can contain and group tracks
True 64-bit floating point end-to-end signal path (not just 64-bit summing)
Support for feedback routing, if desired
Editing Facilities
Realtime fading, crossfading, and auto-crossfading of items
Multi-layer undo/redo with history window (works on all project settings including edits, routing, plug-ins, etc)
Pitch shifting and time stretching per item
Arbitrary item grouping
Tab to transient support
Highly configurable editing playback behavior (autoseeking to audition edits, etc)
Ripple editing (in one track or in all tracks)
Grid/snap support with highly configurable options
Supports multiple time signatures and tempos per project
Markers
Regions, ability to move/copy regions (and all of their contents)
Multiple takes per media item
Piano roll MIDI editor for MIDI items
Project playspeed control/envelope support (equivilent of changing tape speed, fully automateable)
Optional Smooth Seeking (at marker/region or end-of-measure), for easy previewing of transitions
Hardware Utilization
ASIO, WDM Kernel Streaming, WaveOut, and DirectSound support for playback and recording
Supports any samplerate from 8khz to 192khz+*
Advanced (highly effective) multi-processing support (can heavily utilize 2 or more processors)*
MIDI input/output using standard Windows MIDI
Support for some MIDI control surfaces (Behringer BCF2000, Frontier TranzPort and AlphaTrack, PreSonus FaderPort, and Mackie BabyHUI and MCU)
Supports assigning MIDI events to actions, FX parameters
Input/output channel name aliasing ("MOTU 896: Analog 1" becomes "Vocal Mic", etc)
Supports ReWire to other ReWire enabled applications
Supports ReWire slave mode for other applications
ReaRoute: enables most ASIO-enabled applications to send/receive audio to/from REAPER
ReaInsert: enables inserting external hardware anywhere in REAPER's FX chains, with full auto latency compensation
Recording Facilities
Auto punch-in/punch-out functionality
Multiple auto punch-in/punch-out functionality
Record monitoring: always-on, always-off, or tape style auto monitoring
Support for recording track audio output (including with routing in place)
Support for recording track MIDI output
Support for recording the mixed down signal of multiple tracks
Support for arm/disarming inputs while recording
Support for changing recording sources on the fly
MIDI overdub/replace recording modes
On the fly building of recorded item peaks
Lots of control for to specify where recorded files are stored, on both system and per-project levels.
Supports CD burning
Plug-in Support
Flexible FX chains allow unlimited FX per track*
Network FX support -- run FX on spare machines on your local network
Automatic plug-in delay compensation (PDC)**
Easy manipulation of FX via drag and drop or cut and paste
Save/load FX chain to disk, can set a default track chain
Envelopes for FX parameter automation
FX parameter automation recording
MIDI learn for FX parameters
Supports VST/VSTi plug-ins:
Support for 64-bit double precision plug-ins
Support for plug-ins that output/process MIDI
Support for tempo synchronized plug-ins
Supports DX/DXi plug-ins
Supports ReWire devices
Supports inserting external hardware as plug-in FX, with automatic delay compensation
Supports (and includes) user-programmable Jesusonic effects
Bundled Effects
ReaGate: a sidechain-capable noise gate with lookahead and hysteresis controls. ReaGate can also send MIDI events on gate open/close, for triggering samples/etc.
ReaComp: a sidechain-capable configurable compressor with lookahead, configurable knee size, optional feedback mode, and configurable RMS window. ReaComp can be tweaked to sound like many popular hardware and software compressors.
ReaXComp: an unlimited multiband compressor with configurable attack/release, ratio, knee size, feedback mode, RMS window and more per-band. ReaXComp provides a fast and clean interface for the abusive squishing of audio.
ReaEQ: a fast, configurable EQ, with support for any number of many kinds of filters.
ReaFIR: an FFT-based EQ and dynamics processor. ReaFIR can perform as an EQ, but can also do very powerful per-band compression, noise removal, and gating.
ReaVerb: a convolution reverb that lets you synthesize, load, and manipulate reverb impulses on the fly.
ReaVerbate: a simple and efficient algorithmic reverb.
ReaInsert: enables inserting outboard hardware (FX or MIDI synthesizers) as if it was an effect plug-in.
ReaStream: allows sending of audio and/or MIDI over local network segments to other instances of REAPER.
ReaNINJAM: connect to NINJAM servers from within REAPER!
ReaTune: a very fast and accurate instrument/vocal tuner, with automatic and manual correction options
ReaSamplOmatic5000: a simple but powerful MIDI sampler that can be used for both drum triggering and as an instrument.
ReaSynth: a tiny sine/square wave soft synthesizer
ReaSynDr: a tiny "oldschool" style drum synthesizer
Many Jesusonic effects, including: M/S encoder/decoder, delay, distortion, parameteric EQ, guitar amp simulation, chorus, flanger, phaser, tremolo, pitch shifter, and more!
Customizability
Track and project template support
User creatable color themes
Customizable icon themes
User assignable and changeable hotkeys
Extensive behavior options for letting users of other software adapt quickly
Mixer, transport, media explorer, undo history, routing matrix, performance meters can be either docked, hidden, or undocked
Template support to make it easy to load a project template and save it as a new project when you begin.
Options for automatically backing up project files to alternate paths, timestamped versions, etc.
Jesusonic FX can be edited and/or created on the fly, during program operation/playback/recording
Compatibility
Extensive rendering and consolidation options for easy export to other applications
Support for a large number of industry standard file formats
Vegas and Samplitude EDL text import/export
System Requirements
Minimum system: Windows 98/ME/2000/XP with 128MB RAM, 10MB free disk space, 800x600 in 256 colors or higher, Windows compatible sound hardware
Recommended system: Windows 2000/XP with 1GB RAM, >1GB free disk space, 1280x1024 in 16.7M colors, ASIO sound drivers
@+
Anonyme
434
9 Posté le 24/12/2007 à 15:34:52
PS:Reaper est compatible avec Vista.La version pour Mac arrive prochainement
knarf_the_real
428
Posteur·euse AFfamé·e
Membre depuis 21 ans
10 Posté le 24/12/2007 à 17:09:11
Citation : Cubase Studio que tu peux avoir à 199 $ (alors vu le cours du $ ......) pour peu que tu sois étudiant ou travaille pour l'Education nationale
moi, j'ai acheté le mien là-bas, pas d'embrouilles, très dispos par mail, pas cher de frais d'envois et reçu en 1 semaine ! le rêve !
Oui, et puis ce qui est bien, c'est que lorsque tu t'acquittes des taxes et des droits de douane, c'est quasiment le même prix, avec les frais de port en plus. Comme quoi la vie est bien foutue.
Ah, pardon... Tu avais peut-être oublié la TVA et la douane... ? Non parce que c'est sûr que le vol, c'est moins cher. A ce compte là, c'est sûr que c'est le rêve.
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