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Autre synthétiseur virtuel de la marque Vember Audio

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réactions à la news Fini Surge, qui passe sur JUCE et devient Surge XT

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Sujet de la discussion Fini Surge, qui passe sur JUCE et devient Surge XT
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La communauté de développeurs Vember Audio annonce la sortie de Surge XT, la nouvelle version du synthé logiciel gratuit et open source.


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Il y a une nouvelle version de Surge XT 1.2 qui vient d'être annoncée .
Il y a beaucoup de nouveautés mais j'avoue que dans de nombreux cas j'ai pas compris grand chose ...



We released Surge XT 1.2.0 on April 10, 2023. As well as several new major features in tuning, visualization and accessibility, this release brings several new developers contributing substantial changes to the project!

Oscilloscope
Surge XT now has a built-in oscilloscope and spectrograph, based on s(m)exoscope from Smartelectronix!
Oscilloscope can be opened through right-click menu of the top-right output level meter, or through the main menu, Workflow submenu, or by pressing Alt+O (or Option+O on Mac)
Tuning
Surge XT can now act as MTS-ESP provider (server), allowing the Surge XT Tuning Editor to provide tuning for all supporting clients in a session
Remediated yet more edge cases in our internal tuning, including keyboard mapping larger than a scale
Accessibility
We have added Accesibility submenu to the main menu
This menu contains “Set all recommended accessible features” option which basically turns on all the good stuff that a screen reader user would require
Modulation Editor focus is improved when adding a modulation
Quantized slider movements (Control+drag) now work with keyboard bindings (Control+up/down arrow) symmetrically
There is now an option to export the current patch as text (opens in Web browser) for sharing and quicker patch inspection
Improved the Alias oscillator’s additive editor for screen readers by making it consistent with other controls and overlays
Patch Selector will now select the submenu for the category of a given patch by default
Improved name invalidation when arrowing through discrete menu parameters
Step Sequencer steps now have manual value typeins on right mouse click context menu
Added a keybinding (Alt+0 by default) to announce which tabs are currently selected across Surge’s user interface, and which patch is loaded
Fixed an issue where Alt+, and Alt+. bindings could get stuck in the Patch Selector
Plugin
Allowed a more flexible set of I/O mappings, which fixed an interaction between a JUCE, Ardour and Surge XT which could silence VST3 plugin in some situations
Skipped VST3 context menu extensions in Reason, where they seem a bit dicey still
Added parameter name invalidation on patch change to refresh automation displays
Correctly implemented CLAP_NOTE_CHOKE
Corrected a problem with the virtual keyboard in the CLAP version of the plugin
Added appropriate buffering for the audio input for hosts where block size is not a multiple of Surge XT’s internal process block size. This stops input buffer corruption with non-fixed sized blocks in FL Studio, at the cost of input buffer latency of 32 samples
Added a single entry point for note-matches-channel-key-voice-id, allowing the rare case of per-channel polyphonic modulation in CLAP to work
Surge XT Effects
Implemented handling of block sizes that are not multiples of 32 samples more elegantly
Default settings for Reverb and Delay effects are more usable
Parameters for Airwindows effects will now be properly shown even if no audio engine is running
UI/UX
Filter analyzer now lets you modify the cutoff and resonance simultaneously by simply dragging across the plot, XY pad style
Output level meter can now show CPU usage optionally (right-click the level meter to show context menu with options)
Alt+click on an FX slot will now clear it
Typeins for certain continuously togglable parameters (like Freeze in Nimbus or Knock in Spring Reverb) now work
Added a license field to the Save Patch dialog
Added an action to initialize patch (not bound to a key by default)
Modulation List now has a button to copy all assignmets to clipboard
Several virtual keyboard actions are now in the Keyboard Shortcut Editor (octave up/down, velocity up/down 10%)
Modal overlays will now have a semi-transparent background (it was solid color before)
Fixed jog order for wavetables to match display order in all cases
Visual display of modulation state is now going to be correct after using Paste scene option
LFO display will now be repainted when automation changes LFO parameters
Filter analysis overlay will now be repainted when automation changes filter parameters
DSP
Noise generator can now be dropped to mono in all stereo filter configurations (right click the Noise Color slider)
More work done to support process block sizes that are lower than 32 samples - especially fixing a zippering issue in block-wise interpolators used in the mixer
Nimbus resampler now works at very high sample rates (or low block sizes)
Added clamps to all Twist oscillator parameters, which means modulation can no longer make it fail to produce sounds
Added a clamp to Airwindows FX type parameter in order to fix an occasional crash
Modulation
Modulation now works on Unison Detune parameter of Ring Modulator effect
Added an option to scale additional LFO outputs by Amplitude parameter (found in Switch to… submenu in modbutton context menu)
Fixed step sequencer fast drags and out of bounds drags when holding Control
Fixed a bug where a constant MSEG segment with an AEG or FEG trigger would send the trigger on every block, instead of just the first one
MIDI
Added an option to ignore MIDI Program Change messages
Clamped MIDI CC/pitch bend smoothers to avoid an infrequent extreme instability under some very rapid (computer-generated) changes
Other Changes and Bug Fixes
Internal dialog titlebar buttons are consistent on macOS (left-aligned instead of right-aligned)
Fixed incorrect deserialization of “Precise tuning” setting for comb filters
Overlay tearout state is now separately stored for standalone and plugin versions
Fixed a minor UI issue where setting up modulation for LFO parameters would blink when pressing the down arrow on the modbutton and switching LFOs
Fixed a problem which left extra uninitialized padding at the end of streamed oneshot wavetables (this was not audible, it just looked incorrect)
Truncated wavetables no longer add noise to the final imported wavetable
Single cycle wavetables had a clamping error which could trigger an assertion in production builds on Arch Linux and other GCC builds with runtime checks enabled
Surge XT will now close all open menus when destroying the GUI editor, which means lingering menus longer result in a crash when closing the plugin window
Fixed a bug where a .modpreset in the root menu of the Modulation Presets area would crash Surge XT
Show a warning and silence output rather than crash in case when Surge XT is incorrectly handed a mono output buffer (which could happen in some Mac configurations with Bluetooth headphones)
VCV Rack Related Changes (and other non-plugin clients of the code)
Allowed retriggering from non-zero values for LFO EGs
Provided a function to give a frame size to an untagged WAV (not exposed in Surge XT interface yet)
Allowed Treemonster to output the pitch and envelope it detected
String Oscillator would leak memory if an instance was initialized twice. Surge XT didn’t do this, but Rack did
Added the ability to compile without Airwindows, SQLLite or MTS-ESP
Updated CMake rules for simde and JUCE allowing yet more indirection and choice
Allowed SurgeStorage to be more flexibly configured in context other than Surge XT synthesizer, such as VCV Rack and SUrge XT Effects plugin
Added an option to explicitly skip third party wavetable scans
Corrected the bug in Twist oscillator’s LPG optionally, activated the fix for VCV Rack use only (for now)
Infrastructure
Make build on GCC12 and MinGW on Windows
surge-common can now build for RISC-V and WebAssembly
Continued to modernize the codebase, moving to proper copy and assignment constructors on core classes, rather than memcpy
Moved many C-style strings to std::string
Build if an external build system adds AVX flags to the build
Added pffft as a submodule
Python binding updates
Updated to pybind 11
Exposed mpeEnabled and tuningApplicationMode
Add build wheels for cibuildwheel
Made surgepy an installable Python package
Surge XT testrunner will fail quickly and explicitly if resources are not available
Added an API for SurgeImageStore to get a JuceImage for JUCE-specific uses
Lots of small warning cleanups across the codebase
Non-parameter sliders can now have tooltips
Content
Replaced factory templates with explicitly CC0 licensed patches
Updated the LinnStrument MPE patches
New third party wavetables from A.Liv
Fixed Init FM2 and Init Square templates so that they don’t have filters bypassed
Cleaned up Lua syntax in Formula modulator tutorials

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Il serait utile que quelqu'un d'un peu pointu en sound design comme il en existe certainement sur AF fasse un comparatif détaillé sur les points forts et points faibles respectifs de Surge et de Vital. Ils sont souvent mis en parallèle, mais à part pour dire qu'ils sont tous les deux « formidables » et « impressionnants », et que « tu n'as qu'à les essayer et choisir », on ne trouve pas grand chose sur la toile, en tout cas d'argumenté et d'objectif…
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cette partie d'AF est largement désertée depuis un moment....
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C'est l'effet que ça donne, oui. Pourquoi ? Là est la question :noidea:
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houlà, vaste sujet !
Vital est encore bien plus modulable que (j'ai pas dit modulaire hein) Surge XT.
Surge est tout de même plus accessible et plus 'simple' que vital.

mais les deux sont vraiment très bons, moi, je ne choisis pas, j'utilise les deux.

et ils ne sont pas gratuits ! ils ont une version gratuite, mais on peut payer !
et c'est pas cher pour ce que c'est. :D

spotify : Gitrubs

Soundcloud : Gitrubs

youtube : Gitrubs

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oups, je n'ai pas rafraichi la page, il y a eu réponses :D
mon post ne changera pas le monde, mais si ça peut aider à faire un choix selon ses besoins. ...

spotify : Gitrubs

Soundcloud : Gitrubs

youtube : Gitrubs

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Citation de nan3200 :
houlà, vaste sujet ! Vital est encore bien plus modulable que (j'ai pas dit modulaire hein) Surge XT.
Surge est tout de même plus accessible et plus 'simple' que vital, mais les deux sont vraiment très bons, moi, je ne choisis pas, j'utilise les deux

Merci d'avoir répondu. Mais j'aimerais bien qu'un jour on aille au-delà du simple « ils sont géniaux » :clin:
Il ne s'agit pas de choisir, mais de savoir de façon un peu précise ce qu'on peut attendre de l'un dans tel cas précis qu'on aurait plus de mal à obtenir avec l'autre, etc. Ces deux logiciels sont fort complexes, et si le débutant veut éviter des erreurs contreproductives et de perdre des centaines d'heures de bidouillage à l'aveugle, un peu de pédagogie serait bienvenue. Mais je suis peut-être idéaliste :|
On trouve certes des modes d'emploi pour les deux ; mais un mode d'emploi n'est qu'une check-list de fonctions, et ne dit rien sur la qualité de ces fonctions ; ni a fortiori sur les qualités du concurrent :mrg:
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Le test le plus rapide et le plus simple :
- installer les deux et voir si ca marche
- écouter les presets et noter les plus enthousiasmants
- choisir le synthé qui a le plus de presets susnommées.
Voila :bravo:

Et pour être sympa avec les autres AFiens et Afiennes, uploader les dits presets dans la page produit des synthés. :coucou:

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Citation de Monsieur_FyP :
à part pour dire […] « tu n'as qu'à les essayer et choisir », on ne trouve pas grand chose sur la toile, en tout cas d'argumenté et d'objectif…

Citation de Zorks :
Le test le plus rapide et le plus simple :
- installer les deux et voir si ca marche
- écouter les presets et noter les plus enthousiasmants
- choisir le synthé qui a le plus de presets susnommées.
Voila


:nawak:
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Bah, n’empêche, tu n'as qu'a essayer et choisir. C'est dur de choisir ?