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Sujet de la discussion Posté le 27/08/2003 à 18:42:22Depeche Mode
Je m ecoutais du depeche mode la, ,et je me disais que sans eux ya des groupes qui seraient pas comme y sont maintenant...je pense a Paradise lost par exemple...
Vous trouvez pas que c est un groupe culte vous?
Vous trouvez pas que c est un groupe culte vous?
vilak
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841 Posté le 10/08/2023 à 13:41:57
Alan Wilder :
**-Contractually, I have rights to be fully consulted about all aspects of recordings I was involved in, like which versions are used, artwork, label copy, promo items, marketing ideas, et cetera. Sometimes it is a struggle, though, for a leaving [band] member to be heard — out of sight, out of mind — and often it is assumed that because I left, I either don’t care or have given up all these rights. Not so.”
**-The compilation is really a historical piece, which, in my opinion, correctly remains faithful to all the original 7” releases (as did The Singles 81>85). I personally feel this is the right way to go even though [it doesn’t] necessarily [include] the best version of’Behind The Wheel’. The same also applies to a number of other tracks on the record, however; everybody has different opinions about their favourite versions and it would have been absolutely impossible for us all to agree. I was outvoted on ‘In Your Room’ at the time of its original release, but since that was the decision, for this release, the correct version [butch Vig’s ‘Jeep Rock Mix’] has been chosen.”
“As much as I like Intro’s style, I think it’s rather out of sync with a DM greatest hits release — with The Singles 86>98 you’re not just selling the music, you’re selling the image and the memories. Intro’s token rendition of some of the previous symbols — like the [Violator-em] rose, for example — looked a little ridiculous, but some of the main photos looked great. There is nothing wrong with change, I just feel the timing is wrong.
**-Contractually, I have rights to be fully consulted about all aspects of recordings I was involved in, like which versions are used, artwork, label copy, promo items, marketing ideas, et cetera. Sometimes it is a struggle, though, for a leaving [band] member to be heard — out of sight, out of mind — and often it is assumed that because I left, I either don’t care or have given up all these rights. Not so.”
**-The compilation is really a historical piece, which, in my opinion, correctly remains faithful to all the original 7” releases (as did The Singles 81>85). I personally feel this is the right way to go even though [it doesn’t] necessarily [include] the best version of’Behind The Wheel’. The same also applies to a number of other tracks on the record, however; everybody has different opinions about their favourite versions and it would have been absolutely impossible for us all to agree. I was outvoted on ‘In Your Room’ at the time of its original release, but since that was the decision, for this release, the correct version [butch Vig’s ‘Jeep Rock Mix’] has been chosen.”
“As much as I like Intro’s style, I think it’s rather out of sync with a DM greatest hits release — with The Singles 86>98 you’re not just selling the music, you’re selling the image and the memories. Intro’s token rendition of some of the previous symbols — like the [Violator-em] rose, for example — looked a little ridiculous, but some of the main photos looked great. There is nothing wrong with change, I just feel the timing is wrong.
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vilak
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842 Posté le 10/08/2023 à 18:46:24
“The best thing that happened to Dave was his arrest. They forced him to go into rehab and told him that if he didn’t come out clean, then he would be chucked out of America, and I think his love for America, and his desire to be able to work there and live there as much as he wanted — plus he suddenly realised the impact everything was having on the band — helped him through that.” —Daniel Miller, 2001
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843 Posté le 12/08/2023 à 07:39:27
AKAI MX-1000, clavier maitre pour le Devotional Tour
Wilder’s main keyboard was actually longer than his colleagues’ — more out of necessity than ego,
“The Akai keyboard was used as a ‘mother’ keyboard, because it had more keys on its board than the Emax — and I needed as many keys as I could get. It was still, however, triggering [offstage] Emax sounds via MIDI. The Emax keyboard itself was for backup only, which, when needed, would still have been accessed through the mother keyboard.” As had been the case with past performances, there were no rules as to who played what keyboard parts on-stage. “It was a question of logistics,” Alan Wilder claimed.
“I would just spread the sounds over the keyboards as conveniently as possible.” “Conveniently as possible” usually meant Wilder giving himself the trickier parts to play: “None of the individual parts were tough, but I had many different bits to play in quick succession [on ‘Walking In My Shoes’] that occasionally led [me] to having to cross hands to play a part (with my left hand) at the top of the keyboard, while also playing a part with my right hand, as well as changing a preset with a foot pedal.”
Wilder’s main keyboard was actually longer than his colleagues’ — more out of necessity than ego,
“The Akai keyboard was used as a ‘mother’ keyboard, because it had more keys on its board than the Emax — and I needed as many keys as I could get. It was still, however, triggering [offstage] Emax sounds via MIDI. The Emax keyboard itself was for backup only, which, when needed, would still have been accessed through the mother keyboard.” As had been the case with past performances, there were no rules as to who played what keyboard parts on-stage. “It was a question of logistics,” Alan Wilder claimed.
“I would just spread the sounds over the keyboards as conveniently as possible.” “Conveniently as possible” usually meant Wilder giving himself the trickier parts to play: “None of the individual parts were tough, but I had many different bits to play in quick succession [on ‘Walking In My Shoes’] that occasionally led [me] to having to cross hands to play a part (with my left hand) at the top of the keyboard, while also playing a part with my right hand, as well as changing a preset with a foot pedal.”
vilak
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844 Posté le 14/08/2023 à 19:54:57
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After Milan’s ‘vibey’ mix of experimentation and city nightlife, the band knuckled down at Puk in Denmark, where most of Violator was recorded. Wilder and Flood toiled for weeks, trying to texture the electronics to give them a human rather than mechanical feeling. The organic, ‘live’ elements had definitely added a new feel to the music but the art was to make the join between man and machine invisible, so that you couldn’t detect where one started and the other finished. ‘I found myself sitting in a field in northern Denmark where all you could do there was work,’ remembers Flood. ‘That was a very creative session, although Fletch was going through a difficult period in his life and he had to leave to sort himself out.’
During the band’s stay in Puk they were living in two residential cottages. Gahan, Wilder and Daryl Bamonte shared one, while Gore, Fletcher and Flood stayed in the other. Wilder remembers hearing from Flood and Gore that their live-in mate was moping around the cottage all day. Eventually it got so bad that everyone suggested he should fly back to London and get some professional help. According to Wilder,
‘He saw a specialist psychiatrist but nothing really changed for a long time. He went to various doctors and got different tranquillizer prescriptions and so on. He also went to stay at a place called the Priory but he didn’t really seem to improve. He certainly changed because the drugs he was taking made him manic. I don’t know what they put in that stuff but he was very speedy, so he’d be talking a mile a minute. You could tell it wasn’t his normal self. I don’t think he really got any better for several years. He seemed to go up and down, and he was regularly checking himself in and out of the Priory until I left the group in 1995.’
Malins, Steve. Depeche Mode: The Biography .
Mon commentaire en direct maintenant right now:
Fletch was dead weight since day one, He was cancer since days two!
P'tain qu'est-ce que je vais prendre dans la gueule!!!!!!!!
After Milan’s ‘vibey’ mix of experimentation and city nightlife, the band knuckled down at Puk in Denmark, where most of Violator was recorded. Wilder and Flood toiled for weeks, trying to texture the electronics to give them a human rather than mechanical feeling. The organic, ‘live’ elements had definitely added a new feel to the music but the art was to make the join between man and machine invisible, so that you couldn’t detect where one started and the other finished. ‘I found myself sitting in a field in northern Denmark where all you could do there was work,’ remembers Flood. ‘That was a very creative session, although Fletch was going through a difficult period in his life and he had to leave to sort himself out.’
During the band’s stay in Puk they were living in two residential cottages. Gahan, Wilder and Daryl Bamonte shared one, while Gore, Fletcher and Flood stayed in the other. Wilder remembers hearing from Flood and Gore that their live-in mate was moping around the cottage all day. Eventually it got so bad that everyone suggested he should fly back to London and get some professional help. According to Wilder,
‘He saw a specialist psychiatrist but nothing really changed for a long time. He went to various doctors and got different tranquillizer prescriptions and so on. He also went to stay at a place called the Priory but he didn’t really seem to improve. He certainly changed because the drugs he was taking made him manic. I don’t know what they put in that stuff but he was very speedy, so he’d be talking a mile a minute. You could tell it wasn’t his normal self. I don’t think he really got any better for several years. He seemed to go up and down, and he was regularly checking himself in and out of the Priory until I left the group in 1995.’
Malins, Steve. Depeche Mode: The Biography .
Mon commentaire en direct maintenant right now:
Fletch was dead weight since day one, He was cancer since days two!
P'tain qu'est-ce que je vais prendre dans la gueule!!!!!!!!
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845 Posté le 14/08/2023 à 22:01:40
Il parle de Dave Gahan dans l'article ? (le "live-in mate").
Putain Walter mais qu'est-ce que le Vietnam vient foutre là-dedans ?
vilak
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846 Posté le 14/08/2023 à 22:13:40
No de Fletch. C'était lui le colloc de Gore et Flood. Les trois autres étaient dans une autre barraque.
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847 Posté le 14/08/2023 à 22:15:37
Donc Andy Fletcher avait des problèmes mentaux depuis l'enregistrement de Violator ?
Putain Walter mais qu'est-ce que le Vietnam vient foutre là-dedans ?
vilak
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848 Posté le 14/08/2023 à 22:21:18
Je sais pas...
Je pense que tu nais dépressif. Selon ta vie et les coups que tu prends dans la gueule, un jour ça a un impact sur ton quotidien et celui de ton entourage.
Je pense que tu nais dépressif. Selon ta vie et les coups que tu prends dans la gueule, un jour ça a un impact sur ton quotidien et celui de ton entourage.
vilak
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849 Posté le 15/08/2023 à 10:12:58
Alan Wilder: “Nobody enjoyed business meetings very much. In fact, Martin would always do his best to avoid them — mainly because there would usually be an ‘off’ at any given point, typically over something trivial. The two members who were most prone to scrapping were the two that, luckily, never actually came to blows!”
While Wilder’s professionalism prevented him from naming names, Gahan had no such qualms.
“Fletch has had a fight with everyone [in Depeche Mode] but me,” he told Gavin Friday. “He’s never actually tried to hit me. But just lately I think he’s potentially been thinking about it.”
Jonathan Miller. Stripped.
While Wilder’s professionalism prevented him from naming names, Gahan had no such qualms.
“Fletch has had a fight with everyone [in Depeche Mode] but me,” he told Gavin Friday. “He’s never actually tried to hit me. But just lately I think he’s potentially been thinking about it.”
Jonathan Miller. Stripped.
kosmix
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850 Posté le 15/08/2023 à 17:22:41
Bonne ambiance.
Putain Walter mais qu'est-ce que le Vietnam vient foutre là-dedans ?
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