Charlie Hebdo 7 janvier 2015 - Paris 13 novembre 2015
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héhé vous avez mis du temps.......
les intégristes devraient faire une cure aussi, ils seraient moins...explosifs, ces gars là c'est de la dynamite.
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bé ça y va par ici, excusez moi de ma faire l'avocat du diable, mais la parole est à la défonce.
Pour moi en tant que "croyant, tout est relatif. Comme je pense ce qu'on appelle "dieu" est immatériel (et ce quelle que soit la religion d'où la bêtise de frite entre religions) quand on essaie de la caricaturer ou le réprensenter, ça revient à faire ça:
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donc on pourrait dire de chaque caricature: "ceci n'est pas Mahommet", "ceci n'est pas jésus", ceci n'est pas moise" etc etc, vu qu'on ne connait pas sa tronche vraiment.
Pour moi en tant que "croyant, tout est relatif. Comme je pense ce qu'on appelle "dieu" est immatériel (et ce quelle que soit la religion d'où la bêtise de frite entre religions) quand on essaie de la caricaturer ou le réprensenter, ça revient à faire ça:
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donc on pourrait dire de chaque caricature: "ceci n'est pas Mahommet", "ceci n'est pas jésus", ceci n'est pas moise" etc etc, vu qu'on ne connait pas sa tronche vraiment.
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the bubble
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ben chacun sa "foi", laique ou non. mais bon, ça n'empêche pas de réfléchir. ça se discute jour après jour.
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La foi laïque.....
Citation :
Le concept de foi est le plus souvent rattaché aux religions, où il désigne la conviction en la véracité d'un ensemble de croyances. Dans le langage courant, le mot désigne aussi l'était d'esprit qui conduit à croire une chose en l’absence de preuve.
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héhé vous avez mis du temps.......
les intégristes devraient faire une cure aussi, ils seraient moins...explosifs, ces gars là c'est de la dynamite.
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