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Depeche Mode

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Sujet de la discussion Depeche Mode
Je m ecoutais du depeche mode la, ,et je me disais que sans eux ya des groupes qui seraient pas comme y sont maintenant...je pense a Paradise lost par exemple...
Vous trouvez pas que c est un groupe culte vous?
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“Alan Wilder is now a permanent member of Depeche Mode … although he didn’t play on the last three hit singles or A Broken Frame, he will be joining Dave, Martin and Andy in the studio from now on.”

So, they didn’t mind him being that critical year older, after all. Yet it said a lot about the band’s awkward, self-conscious nature in those days that, even cooped up in a tour van for weeks, they couldn’t ask their new colleague face-to-face if he would go full-time.

“Daniel Miller phoned me [to tell him],” Wilder laughed to Steve Malins in Depeche Mode: A Biography. “I think the band found it difficult to be the bearers of good news, as well as bad …”

Gittins, Ian. Depeche Mode: Faith and Devotion

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While Gahan’s life festered in Los Angeles, back in England there was no communication between Alan Wilder and the other members of Depeche Mode.

In early summer 1995 he called a meeting in London with Andy Fletcher and Martin Gore to inform them he was leaving the band.

This came as no surprise to Daniel Miller who was sure at least one band member would bail out after the Devotional tour.

‘I knew something had to give,’ says Miller. ‘I knew that the four of them could never work together again. That was not going to happen. They had some kind of a discussion at some point, I can’t remember when, and Alan said, “Look, the next album I don’t really want you guys to be around in the studio.” And that was it really.
If somebody had to go it had to be Al. In the chemistry of the band, somehow, Fletch couldn’t go because him and Mart were part of the same thing in a sense and Mart’s the songwriter, so it had to be Alan. He was the one who was laying down the law a bit and saying this is how he wanted it to be for the next album.
All the others were saying, “Well, that’s not how we see things for the next record.”’

Malins, Steve. Depeche Mode: The Biography

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Malheureusement c'est le meilleur qui a quitté le navire.

Par-contre je ne vois pas en quoi Fletcher était indispensable et donc pourquoi il ne pouvait pas partir.

Putain Walter mais qu'est-ce que le Vietnam vient foutre là-dedans ?

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Citation de kosmix :

Par-contre je ne vois pas en quoi Fletcher était indispensable et donc pourquoi il ne pouvait pas partir.


Fletcher était le ciment du groupe, il s'occupait également de la communication
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Ben j'aurais préféré qu'Alan reste parce que ciment ou pas sans lui le groupe bof quoi.

Putain Walter mais qu'est-ce que le Vietnam vient foutre là-dedans ?

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J'aurais préféré aussi, surtout que quelques temps après, Fletch a dit que si Wilder n'était pas parti, c'est lui qui aurait quitté DM.
Je préfère croire que c'est un mensonge sinon ce serait trop cruel.
T'imagine, si Alan avait attendu le retour en studio à NY et que Fletch, voyant que Alan est toujours là, dise : "je quitte le groupe".
Bad timing...

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Fletcher: ‘I don’t think the ideas have changed at all ... we just replaced Alan, as such, with a team of people.’ Gore also remained dismissive of Wilder’s contribution, insisting the new band set-up was preferable: ‘Dave Clayton, the musician we are currently working with now, in a way fulfils Alan’s role, but it’s far easier to manipulate him. If Alan didn’t like something, I am sure he would play it badly, but if we say to Dave, “can you try this out for us”, he’ll try it and he’ll try his hardest to make it work for us. So I really enjoy the whole set up.’
Simenon was given very little direction from Gore, who just informed him he wanted the songs to be quite beat-oriented.
Dave Gahan : ‘Martin really enjoys working with Tim because Tim likes to work in the same sort of process as Martin, so they get on very well. I think Flood was a little more experimental and I don’t mean that in a bad way to Tim, but Flood was willing to try a lot more stuff musically and dig deeper than sort of going with the same format of just programming everything, every song.’

A Biography - Steve Malins

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Putain, je vais le lire! Trop cool les livres de rock merci

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[ Dernière édition du message le 19/07/2023 à 21:59:54 ]

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C'est vraiment parti en couilles avec le Devotional Tour. Clairement Wilder n'était pas épanoui artistiquement dans le groupe (et probablement pas reconnu à sa juste valeur) et puis Gahan a fait n'importe-quoi, Fletch fait une dépression, bref un sacré bordel.

Putain Walter mais qu'est-ce que le Vietnam vient foutre là-dedans ?

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C'est clair!

The delay in completing Songs of Faith and Devotion was particularly stressful for Alan Wilder who had to do all the preprogramming for the upcoming world tour. ‘Booking the tour upfront was a problem,’ confesses Miller. ‘They were in the studio for months, straight into rehearsals and promotion of the album, then they had to go on tour. They’d had a couple of breaks in recording but the deadline wasn’t set to get the record out, it was all because of the tour. This made things very intense, especially for Alan who had to work on the backing tapes for the shows.’

In January 1993, five months before they were due to set off, Wilder and Steve Lyon finally started work on the ‘live’ music at Olympic Studios and then at Wilder’s own studio in West Sussex. In stark contrast to the more sociable pre-tour work on Violator, Steve Lyon immediately noted the absence of the other band members: ‘Alan and me didn’t see anyone for three or four months. It was a very different situation to the run-up to the World Violation tour.
We just locked ourselves away, sampling stuff from Depeche Mode records and basically creating another album.’ This pre-tour work was quite complex, as it effectively meant they were re-recording the whole of the new album and rearranging a lot of Depeche Mode’s back catalogue.

‘Unfortunately, putting the Devotional live show together proved to be more of a handful than either myself or Steve had bargained for,’ notes Wilder.

Malins, Steve. Depeche Mode: The Biography .

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