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Sujet de la discussion Les questions auxquelles on n'a pas les réponses mais un AFien peut les avoir

Voilà un topic qui sert à s'informer, à poser des questions pour resoudre les tracas du quotidien.


J'inaugure avec :


J'ai cuit des oeufs un peu façon omelette, conservés entre 36 et 48h au frigo, je les ai réchauffé et là je sens mon bide trop chelou.

Quelqu'un sait combien de temps ça se garde sans risque ?

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Dans le Vieux Lyon, dans les traboules, y'a des boutiques, demande à ménestr-l.

[ Dernière édition du message le 18/02/2013 à 23:01:09 ]

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Bon, je vais voir ces sites, merci !
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Je dois déménager un piano (bon, spa moi qui me le fout sur le râble, disons plutôt que le piano de ma copine doit bouger de place), qui ira chez un ami.

On va donc le mettre dans un endroit d'où hélas il devra ensuite etre bougé, sur une courte distance toutefois, et sur un même étage. Disons qu'après dépose, il devra bouger tôt ou tard de 2 à 3m.

Le sol sera en béton.

 

Question : comme il est exclu de le faire glisser/le soulever à 2 ou 3 une fois sur le site (le piano fait environ 200 kg), est-il envisageable ou utile de le déposer sur des bouts de moquette pour pouvoir le faire glisser ensuite ? Ou existe-t-il d'autres moyens macgyveresques ?

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T'as pas des vieux skates qui trainent ?
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Mes beaux-parents ont du déplacer un piano d'une pièce à une autre récemment, je suis expert en la matière. Il faut glisser un tapis assez épais ou très résistant (en l'occurrence, c'était une peau de vache) en dessous (face contre le sol), avec un côté dépassant suffisamment pour le rouler autour du bras et l'empoigner. C'est passé tout seul. (Parquet, carrelage). C'est du béton ciré?
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Nan ! Pis bon, poser un truc de 2x1x0.5m et 200 kg sur un skate me parait assez hypothétique, sauf dans un épisode des Simpson. redface2

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des patins glisseurs
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Non je ne mettrai pas de pull

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